Flat Earth: Why doesn't a Plane's altitude meter (gyroscope) pitch up and down if it's a round earth

[Radrook]

i can't fathom how there could be a "flat" earth.....

there's a "core" in the center of the earth, right?

And it's really super hot?

And there's volcanoes that spew molten hot lava (from the earth's core)

And there's well, "gravity"

Then there's the moon....and it's round....isn't it?

how could the earth be "flat"?

But the argument is that we are being told that the moon is round when it's just a reflection on the dome.

 

[Radrook]

Just a simple explanation of what generates it.

Thank you.

One explanation I have encountered is a gradually accelerating Earth.

 

[Radrook]

wouldn;t this happen to ships on a flat earth?

Not if the dome is flush with the sides.

 

[lesliedellow]

1) NASA launches rockets adjusted on the earth curvature to boost it. Now you say the plane follows the earth curvature without adjusting to the curvature. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

Either the plane follows the curvature....or it has to adjust for the curvature. Which is it?

NASA launches rockets which go high enough and fast enough to enter Earth orbit.

Planes travel neither high enough nor fast enough to enter earth orbit.

In both cases, gravity keeps them following the curvature of the Earth.

Next question, genius?

 

[lesliedellow]

Most planes cruise at a constant altitude:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(aeronautics)

Um, constant altitude above the surface of the Earth.

 

[lesliedellow]

I meant spherical.

Not even science can explain gravity. Math cannot explain it. 1 + 1 = 2....how do you know that? Because it is connected to the physical world, to reality, to something observable. E=MC^2...that is a hoax, it is deception, it is not observable at all.

E=mc^2 has got nothing to do with gravity, but never mind. It's a hoax, so Hiroshima was never flattened by an atom bomb. Go and tell that to the Japanese.

 

[lesliedellow]

Why call it gravity? What if God made some sort of unknown force that is come to be misunderstood as gravity?

What would you prefer it to be called? Uncle Fred? Outer Mongolia? Bread and jam?

What is known for sure is that it is proportional to mass and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between two gravitating objects - and that can be measured.

 

[lesliedellow]

Thanks. Where does it come from?

There will always be things in science which have to be accepted as brute facts. If you want to you can think of gravity as being a curvature of spacetime, but that just throws up a new question - why does mass curve spacetim? If that question gets answered, there will just be new brute facts to contend with.

Ultimately science doesn't explain nature. It only models it, measures it, and, where possible, it seeks to reduce the number of brute facts which have to be taken on board.

 

[Ophiolite]

I hate to tell you this, but an altimeter measures air pressure. It has nothing to do with a gyroscope.

No, go on. I know you enjoyed it. (If you didn't, I did.)

 

[Radrook]

Have you not heard of aereonautical cruise???? How can you say planes follow the curvature of the earth?!? What kind of logic/science is that!

Most planes cruise at a constant altitude:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(aeronautics)



You CANNOT have it both ways. A plane cannot be adjusting for curvature AND not adjusting for curvature at the same time.

Which is it?

How can they cruise at a constant altitude? Remember, it's 580 mph......with the curvature being 8" per mile.

Doesn't gravity FORCE it to adjust to the curvature?

 

[morse86]

Doesn't gravity FORCE it to adjust to the curvature?

If that was true, then NASA is lieing and no one has been to space. You cannot have it both ways.

NASA is adjusting to the curvature, the planes are forced to adjust to the curvature. Seriously? What a joke.

 

[Radrook]

If that was true, then NASA is lieing and no one has been to space. You cannot have it both ways.

NASA is adjusting to the curvature, the planes are forced to adjust to the curvature. Seriously? What a joke.

What is it about the concept of gravity that would prevent it from forcing the plane to adjust to curvature?

 

[Gene2memE]

If that was true, then NASA is lieing and no one has been to space. You cannot have it both ways.

NASA is adjusting to the curvature, the planes are forced to adjust to the curvature. Seriously? What a joke.

Is the concept of escape velocity meaningless to you?

 

[morse86]

What is it about the concept of gravity that would prevent it from forcing the plane to adjust to curvature?

Have you taken a leveler tool? It stays constant, there is NO pitch up/down (other than for the climb/descent). It is scientific experiment that can be conducted by anyone and the results is clear.

On one hand, the leveler tool does not change but NASA has to adjust for the curvature. What a joke.

 

[morse86]

Is the concept of escape velocity meaningless to you?

I don't care about mathematics disconnected from reality. No one can test, prove, observe "escape velocity" other than NASA and it's "funded" cronies (jpl, spacex etc).

 

[CrystalDragon]

Because ignorance in this day and age is still strong sadly...
Education really needs to be updated to so we never have this conversation ever again.... or any ridiculous claims for that matter. Sadly people still claim flat earth in 2016 again though flat earth is still a fairly new concept... it's as plausible as homeopathic medications curing cancer.

I've heard that homeopathic medications curing cancer can actually be done (I think one I heard of calls herself Dr. Day or something)—flat earth though is just, eh, I'm highly highly HIGHLY skeptical about it and you'd have to find me some REALLY convincing evidence for me to believe someone on that.

 

[morse86]

I've heard that homeopathic medications curing cancer can actually be done (I think one I heard of calls herself Dr. Day or something)—flat earth though is just, eh, I'm highly highly HIGHLY skeptical about it and you'd have to find me some REALLY convincing evidence for me to believe someone on that.

Look no further. I present to you observable, testable, repeatable evidence. No CGI or appeal to authorities here.

Go to the 4:20 minute mark, see for yourself the sun's hotspot directly below. There is no way to account for this other than the sun is REALLY in "low earth orbit" and the earth is flat. There are NO OTHER alternative explanations.

There are many low earth orbit space balloon launches, all of them show the same thing.....the sun is within low earth orbit and the earth is flat (make sure the are not using a fish eye lens)

 

[Gene2memE]

Go to the 4:20 minute mark, see for yourself the sun's hotspot directly below. There is no way to account for this other than the sun is REALLY in "low earth orbit" and the earth is flat. There are NO OTHER alternative explanations.

Reflection from a gap in the clouds.

 

[morse86]

Reflection from a gap in the clouds.

As ridiculous as that sounds, all of the space balloon launches..at different times/location show the same "gap"?!?!?! Now I know how NASA is able to fool so many people.

 

[lesliedellow]

I don't care about mathematics disconnected from reality. No one can test, prove, observe "escape velocity" other than NASA and it's "funded" cronies (jpl, spacex etc).

The same mathematics (Newtonian Mechanics) is used to calculate escape velocity as is used to build a bridge, or design an aircraft.

Wouldn't it be nice if some people had a five year old's knowledge of science?