Flat Earth: Why doesn't a Plane's altitude meter (gyroscope) pitch up and down if it's a round earth

[AceHero]

Purpose? Does that even need an explanation, I thought it was obvious?

It is ultimately to turn people away from God. To show there is no God. To show that we are alone in an infinitely expanding universe and that there might be "other lifeforms".

Hollywood prepped the masses using garbage like Star Trek and the various space movies during the 40/50s etc. When the actual studio production of Apollo was shown, the masses naturally accepted it as truth.

Occultists love to contradict the word of God. What better way to contradict than a spherical earth. God says flat, occultists say spherical. God says earth is not movable, occultists say it is. By the way, NASA was started by occultists, actual satanists.


Have you also not heard about compartmentalization? Not everybodythat works at NASA realizes the deception. They wouldn't have to keep a secret, because their role is limited. If you think this is IMPOSSIBLE, then check out Project Manhattan. How come more than 100K employees were able to keep a secret. You cannot have it both ways.

I believe in God, and there are many scientists who aren't atheists.

 

[Xalith]

Occultists love to contradict the word of God. What better way to contradict than a spherical earth. God says flat, occultists say spherical. God says earth is not movable, occultists say it is. By the way, NASA was started by occultists, actual satanists.

"Cannot be moved" != "does not move on its own"
"Circle" != "Flat"

If you view a sphere from a distance, it looks like a circle at first glance. That doesn't mean it is flat, that merely means you see a "round object" and you don't have enough perspective to ascertain whether it is flat and disc-shaped, or spherical.

And because God said the Earth is "Immovable" doesn't mean that He Himself doesn't move the Earth, or cause it to move. Or are you trying to say that not even God can move the Earth? lol

 

[morse86]

"Cannot be moved" != "does not move on its own"
"Circle" != "Flat"

If you view a sphere from a distance, it looks like a circle at first glance. That doesn't mean it is flat, that merely means you see a "round object" and you don't have enough perspective to ascertain whether it is flat and disc-shaped, or spherical.

And because God said the Earth is "Immovable" doesn't mean that He Himself doesn't move the Earth, or cause it to move. Or are you trying to say that not even God can move the Earth? lol

Are you serious? Occultist NASA says that the Suns/Moons gravity influences the earth's orbit.....so it is definetly being moved.

The bible differentiates between spherical and flat. The earth is definetly not spherical if you read the word of God.

You are trying to shape God's word to occultist lead pseudo scientists. Nice try, but some of us want to hold sted fast regarding the lord's word. We will not be deceived by the "psuedo scientists" and their CGI of this world.

 

[katerinah1947]

Are you serious? Occultist NASA says that the Suns/Moons gravity influences the earth's orbit.....so it is definetly being moved.

The bible differentiates between spherical and flat. The earth is definetly not spherical if you read the word of God.

You are trying to shape God's word to occultist lead pseudo scientists. Nice try, but some of us want to hold sted fast regarding the lord's word. We will not be deceived by the "psuedo scientists" and their CGI of this world.

Hi,

Are you a preacher, in real life?

LOVE,

 

[morse86]

Hi,

Are you a preacher, in real life?

LOVE,

No, I'm not but I can tell you I have my doctrine straight. I don't try to mold God's word based on science. I try to mold science based on God's word.

It is obvious Satan runs all of the kingdoms of this earth. He runs the media, he runs the telievision, he runs the university curriculums. It's like a chess match, a world stage, sure there are puppets like Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking....but behind them is Satan.

 

[JacksBratt]

"Cannot be moved" != "does not move on its own"
"Circle" != "Flat"

If you view a sphere from a distance, it looks like a circle at first glance. That doesn't mean it is flat, that merely means you see a "round object" and you don't have enough perspective to ascertain whether it is flat and disc-shaped, or spherical.

And because God said the Earth is "Immovable" doesn't mean that He Himself doesn't move the Earth, or cause it to move. Or are you trying to say that not even God can move the Earth? lol

Actually the word is Chug or translated circle. Ball is Dur. Taken literally the earth is a circle not a ball. Go figure.

 

[AceHero]

Hi,

Are you a preacher, in real life?

LOVE,

No, I'm not but I can tell you I have my doctrine straight. I don't try to mold God's word based on science. I try to mold science based on God's word.

It is obvious Satan runs all of the kingdoms of this earth. He runs the media, he runs the telievision, he runs the university curriculums. It's like a chess match, a world stage, sure there are puppets like Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking....but behind them is Satan.

That's so sad. You're basically forcing yourself to ignore the realities of the world and the universe around us based on a few passages from an ancient book whose main purpose is decidedly not to explain science but to provide spiritual salvation.

 

[JacksBratt]

I believe in God, and there are many scientists who aren't atheists.

I agree, many Christians or believers in God have been wrong before. Scientists can be wrong, preachers can be wrong, teachers can be wrong.... It's when you find out your wrong and what you do with it that proves your heart.

 

[JacksBratt]

That's so sad. You're basically forcing yourself to ignore the realities of the world and the universe around us based on a few passages from an ancient book whose main purpose is decidedly not to explain science but to provide spiritual salvation.

If I go to a long stretch of water, say five or six miles, and from the water level I can see the shore at the water line six miles away.... where is the curve of the earth? It should be two hundred inches under the curve of the earth. This is observable. Many have done it out to fifty miles or so.... That is a reality. Check it for yourself, if you dare. A simple lazer or spotting scope and a painted piece of plywood will do.

It is one of the things that makes me go hmmmm. on this subject.

Commercial air craft fly over the north pole all the time to save distance, time and fuel. They DO NOT fly over the south pole and ALWAYS make connecting flights in northern eastern or western airports instead of a short straight flight over the south pole...... WHY?

 

[morse86]

That's so sad. You're basically forcing yourself to ignore the realities of the world and the universe around us based on a few passages from an ancient book whose main purpose is decidedly not to explain science but to provide spiritual salvation.

Universe? When did we even start using that term? NASA.

There is science and falsely called science. Most of astronomy is falsely called science. It is full of non-observable math, assumptions, and hoaxes. When math disconnects from reality, you are in fantasy land. e=mc^2 is a hoax.

I trust the Lord's word, which are pure words as silver tried in a furnace purified seven times. I don't trust CGI, fradulent academic circular reasoning, stooges like Stephen Hawking, and a bunch of satanic freemasons/occultists (NASA).

 

[AceHero]

That's so sad. You're basically forcing yourself to ignore the realities of the world and the universe around us based on a few passages from an ancient book whose main purpose is decidedly not to explain science but to provide spiritual salvation.

Universe? When did we even start using that term? NASA.

Oh please. The concept of the universe predates 1958.

 

[katerinah1947]

No, I'm not but I can tell you I have my doctrine straight. I don't try to mold God's word based on science. I try to mold science based on God's word.

It is obvious Satan runs all of the kingdoms of this earth. He runs the media, he runs the telievision, he runs the university curriculums. It's like a chess match, a world stage, sure there are puppets like Richard Dawkins and Stephen Hawking....but behind them is Satan.

Hi,

I understand. I did not have to mold science to God's Word as science fit God's Word.

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi,

I understand. I did not have to mold science to God's Word as science fit God's Word.

LOVE,

Hi,

Bilblically for instance, I found the darkness upon the surface of the deep, very well reflected the condition of the earth being covered by even it's present amount of water, if all the land were flat and not lifeted up.

Light under the water soon becomes less and less. When one gets to about 200 feet, it already getting dark.

The oceans would cover the earth by a mile, if the land were lifted up no where, and all the trenches in the ocean were flat.

That is 5280 feet at a minimum. It might be more water. And that is more than 5000 more feet of water than it takes to make that statement true.

LOVE,

The Bible fits science. Science is not fit to the Bible. Even tectonic plates in number roughly match the columns of the earth that the earth is said to be supported upon. So, even that does not have to be changed, rather it fits.

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi,

Even land being all in one place one place, like in The Bible when the dry land was made to appear, science agrees with that also.

The sun was put in the sky to rule the day, hence it now rules the earth in a way. The moon is for the night and the stars. The moon affects the earth also. Thus science does not have to be fit, to the Bible, rather science fits the Bible.

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi,

And God said, let there be light. That totally fits with science. They agree that light energy is the source for all things. The use the words Big Bang for that concept.

Again, science fits the bible, and does not have to be changed.

LOVE,

 

[katerinah1947]

Hi,

Time is not a constant, and that fits the timing in Creation. We don't know how long each time period was.

LOVE.

 

[Xalith]

Commercial air craft fly over the north pole all the time to save distance, time and fuel. They DO NOT fly over the south pole and ALWAYS make connecting flights in northern eastern or western airports instead of a short straight flight over the south pole...... WHY?

Because there's little-to-no reason to?

What is in the southern ends of the world except for Australia? Let's see, there's South America... and how many cities big/developed enough to have a major international airport, again, are found in the lower half of SA?

Right. Pretty much none.

Okay, how about the southern tip of Africa? Right, not many International Airports down there, either. The only area that is developed enough to have an IA is Australia. Where exactly would an Australian want to fly that he would want to pass over the South Pole? Meanwhile, the North Pole has a ton of different places, like Canada, England, Iceland, Greenland, Russia, Alaska, etc that people commonly fly to and from.

RE: @morse86 , @JacksBratt : I know fully that Hebrew has words for sphere and circle. What I'm saying is that the people who wrote these things were given visions, and in these visions, they saw what appeared to be a circular object, so they used the word "circle".

Just like John in the Book of Revelation probably didn't know what an ICBM is (just to use one quick example), which is why a lot of the things he saw in Revelation are referred to with metaphors and similes, because he simply didn't know what exactly he was seeing.

Just like if you give a kid a telescope and he looks into it and sees other planets, he might at first think they are all little shining discs up in space, even if we know by observations that they are actually balls or spheres.

 

[pgp_protector]

World's most southernmost International Airport.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ushuaia_–_Malvinas_Argentinas_International_Airport

 

[ecco]

ecco said:

Can you see the night sky? Occasionally, if you look at the right time, you will see a bright light in the sky. Sort of like a big star. You will notice it is moving rather quickly. It is the International Space Station that is in orbit. Here you can find a schedule of the times it will be visible to you.

http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/sightings/#.ViO-q36rSUk​

JacksBratt:

I'm very well aware of objects orbiting the earth, prove that they have people inside, without using NASA pics and vids.​

ecco:

My post had nothing to do with whether the ISS was populated or not. You can see for yourself that the ISS moves across the sky. Do you agree that it does?​

Yes, a large object is trackable and visible. So are other smaller ones, at least in summer.

OK, you admit people, including yourself if you take the time, can see the ISS. For the sake of this discussion, it doesn't matter if it populated or not. If you went to the site and took the time to see for yourself, you would see that the ISS is visible from different parts of the world at different times and "appearing" to move in different directions. Sometimes it is observed to be moving North to NorthEast, sometimes NNW to ESE, sometimes SW to SSW.

This is the result of a fixed orbit over a rotating earth.

The only way it is even partially explainable in a flat earth model is that the ISS is flying over the flat earth and constantly firing its rockets to change direction.

 

[ecco]

JacksBratt 390:

Also, can you look at the night sky? If we are spinning, then orbiting the sun which is moving through our galaxy...........
why do all, every single one of the constellations not change on millimeter? They do not budge, move oscillate, migrate, slide, shift or deform. Yet they are light years from each other and in different planes in relation to the earth. But, no change after centuries.​

ecc0 398:

Some facts (you will probably disagree with them, but you asked) All numbers in miles.
Approximate (Rounded for ease of math) Diameter of earth's orbit around the sun : 100,000,000
Distance light travels in one year: (6 trillion) 6,000,000,000,000
Distance to star in Orions Belt : 1, 000 Light years or (6 quadrillion) 6,000,000,000,000,000 miles.
Approximate ratio of earth's diameter to Orion Belt star: 60,000,000 : 1​

Experiment for you to try:
Go to a bowling alley. The lanes are 60 feet long
Have them set up the 1 and 10 pins. Stand at the foul line. Carefully look at the two pins, especially the apparentrelationship of one to the other. Take a picture. Now, move to the left just .000001 of a foot. Take another picture. Compare the pictures. No difference.​

The reason the stars apparently"... do not budge, move oscillate, migrate, slide, shift or deform." is that the diameter of the earth's rotation around the sun is tiny compared to the distance to the stars.​

That's one theory. The other is that we don't move. How do we know for sure?

In your post #390 quoted above, you gave one of the reasons that you believe the earth is unmoving; "because constellations do not appear to change". I showed you why, and you responded "How do we know for sure?". I don't know what, if anything, will convince you. But so far I have addressed two concerns you have voiced: Unchanging constellations and apparent ISS movements.