Flat Earth Theory.

[AV1611VET]

John 6 is known as the bread of life discourse. Your just running away from the discussion as usual because you don’t want to admit that it’s a metaphor.

Part of Bible maturity is knowing the difference between literal and metaphor.

 

[prodromos]

John 6 is known as the bread of life discourse. Your just running away from the discussion as usual because you don’t want to admit that it’s a metaphor.

The Hebrew metaphor for eating someone's flesh meant to destroy that person. If you insist Christ was using the metaphorical understanding then He was telling His disciples to destroy Him.
With regards to the prohibition to consuming blood, it is because the life was in the blood. Christ tells us to drink His blood precisely because His life is in His blood.

 

[trophy33]

He has to say that or his head would be on the chopping block.

So, he said nothing that supports your ideas, said many things against your ideas, but you still somehow think you can use him to support your ideas?

Seems similar to what you are doing with biblical texts, too. You simply just steal (for the lack of a better word) the keyword you like out of its context and use it in your own fantasy contexts (and claim the original source supports your ideas just because it also contains the keyword).

Its like taking your nickname and claiming it proves you are a talking apple. Ignoring, that the context is a forum nickname. Yes, you are (to your shame) using similar absurdities in your argumentation.

 

[Apple Sky]

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(No offense to those who believe the earth is flat.)

None taken.

 

[Apple Sky]

I'll take science's word that it's round.

Why not God's word ?

It is domed & circular

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22

It is stationary

King James Bible
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.Psalm 104:5

It is level

King James Bible
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Job 38:5

I'd like to see anywhere in the Bible that it says the earth is spinning globe.

 

[trophy33]

Why not God's word ?

It is domed & circular

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22

It is stationary

King James Bible
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.Psalm 104:5

It is level

King James Bible
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Job 38:5

I'd like to see anywhere in the Bible that it says the earth is spinning globe.

Why dont you believe in a literal Leviathan in the seas that will be killed with a literal sword by God, then? Or, why dont you believe that your thinking is processed in your kidneys? Or, why dont you believe that light has a literal home? Or that God has literal giant legs and our Earth is a literal footstool for them?

All is said or referred to in the Bible, even in the same places you use - Psalms, Isaiah, Job. If you want to use your Bible in a silly way, be at least consistent in your silliness. Both you and the YEC believers pick just some symbolism to be literal, randomly, without any textual rule.

 

[Apple Sky]

Both you and the YEC believers pick just some symbolism to be literal, randomly, without any textual rule.

There is no textual rule when it comes to God's word, only truth which fears nothing.

 

[trophy33]

There is no textual rule when it comes to God's word, only truth which fears nothing.

Why do you try to you ignore my questions then? Do you fear them?

Here they are again:
Why dont you believe in a literal Leviathan in the seas that will be killed with a literal sword by God? Or, why dont you believe that your thinking is processed in your kidneys? Or, why dont you believe that light has a literal home? Or that God has literal giant legs and our Earth is a literal footstool for them?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why not God's word ?

It is domed & circular

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22

That's a good point.

I forgot about that passage.

If God is sitting upon "the circle of the earth," looking down and seeing us as grasshoppers, then that circle must arc over the earth from end to end, giving the earth its third dimensional description!

It's basic geometry.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why dont you believe in a literal Leviathan in the seas that will be killed with a literal sword by God, then? Or, why dont you believe that your thinking is processed in your kidneys? Or, why dont you believe that light has a literal home? Or that God has literal giant legs and our Earth is a literal footstool for them?

You can't go "X-ing a Paragrab" with the Bible.

In other words, you can't apply literalism in every passage.

That's part of Bible maturity: knowing what is literal and what is metaphorical.

Sometimes the Bible speaks of the shape of the earth in two dimensional terms:

Psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Sometimes in three:

Isaiah 40:22a It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,

 

[trophy33]

You can't go "X-ing a Paragrab" with the Bible.

In other words, you can't apply literalism in every passage.

That's part of Bible maturity: knowing what is literal and what is metaphorical.

Sometimes the Bible speaks of the shape of the earth in two dimensional terms:

Psalm 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Sometimes in three:

Isaiah 40:22a It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth,

You are welcome to demonstrate why the sitting upon the circle is literal, while Leviathan in the seas is not. Both is in Isaiah.

And Psalms are songs so obviously that, trying to use them for any technical description is absurd.

 

[Apple Sky]

Why dont you believe in a literal Leviathan in the seas that will be killed with a literal sword by God? Or, why dont you believe that your thinking is processed in your kidneys? Or, why dont you believe that light has a literal home? Or that God has literal giant legs and our Earth is a literal footstool for them?

That's obvious - Why don't you believe Isaiah 40:22 Psalm 104:5 Job 38:5

 

[Phil G]

Why not God's word ?

It is domed & circular

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22

It is stationary

King James Bible
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.Psalm 104:5

It is level

King James Bible
Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Job 38:5

I'd like to see anywhere in the Bible that it says the earth is spinning globe.

Your interpretation of these verses and others being correct is entirely dependent on the actual shape of the earth. The evidence that the earth is spherical in shape is overwhelming, meaning your interpretation of Scripture regarding the earth's shape is wrong.

The verses you quoted do not define the earth as a flat stationary earth. They can be interpreted in other ways. For example, the Hebrew word translated as 'circle' in Isaiah 40:22 is 'chug' and also means 'vault' in its masculine noun form, which is the way it is used in this verse. Therefore the verse can legitimately read "It is he that sitteth upon the vault of the earth". Regardless of who is correct, interpreting it to mean the earth is literally 'domed and circular' irrationally flies in the face of reality.

Psalm 104 is a song and the Psalms contain numerous metaphors. The verse can be interpreted to mean that God has firmly established the earth in its existence and nothing can destroy it. Again, using the verse to say the earth is literally 'stationary' flies in the face of reality.

Regarding Job 38:5, the shape of the earth cannot be even discerned, regardless of it being flat or a sphere, the verse holds true for both. Interpreting the verse to claim that the earth is 'level' flies in the face of reality.

When God speaks in the Bible, He can speak in both literal and metaphorical terms. I'd like to see where He definitively states the earth as flat, rather than somebody trying to extract meanings from what He said which are not there.

 

[trophy33]

That's obvious - Why don't you believe Isaiah 40:22 Psalm 104:5 Job 38:5

Thats obvious. The genre of Psalms, Job or Isaiah is not literal.

 

[Apple Sky]

And Psalms are songs so obviously that, trying to use them for any technical description is absurd.

These are songs, but I'd say they describe the truth very well

 

[Apple Sky]

Your interpretation of these verses and others being correct is entirely dependent on the actual shape of the earth. The evidence that the earth is spherical in shape is overwhelming, meaning your interpretation of Scripture regarding the earth's shape is wrong.

It's not my interpretation, these are Gods words, So your calling God a liar ?

When God speaks in the Bible, He can speak in both literal and metaphorical terms. I'd like to see where He definitively states the earth as flat, rather than somebody trying to extract meanings from what He said which are not there.

Well I'd like to see where God states the earth is a globe orbiting the sun.......

 

[Apple Sky]

Thats obvious. The genre of Psalms, Job or Isaiah is not literal.

Non-literal or figurative language is language that goes beyond the dictionary meaning of words or phrases – not. using words in their usual or most basic sense. • Writers use a lot of non-literal language to help readers better understand something or gain a more. detailed picture in their minds.

 

[AV1611VET]

You are welcome to demonstrate why the sitting upon the circle is literal, while Leviathan in the seas is not.

Leviathan is real.

Ditto for dragons, satyrs, unicorns, and behemoths.

 

[Apple Sky]

Leviathan is real.

I reckon so too.

 

[trophy33]

These are songs, but I'd say they describe the truth very well

I know you like absurd.

However, as a self-identified Christian, don't you have an obligation to approach the Bible with respect and treat it properly with dignity, instead of creating a circus of nonsense?