Flat Earth? Not Far From The Truth.

[Strathos]

If you simply go over the ice barrier, you'll find it.

Which is where?

 

[Messenger 3k]

Oh. I see your point.

So my model is incorrect because I couldn't present a map projected accurately on my model?

Lol.

It's only a 3D animation, not a simulation software.

 

[d taylor]

That is not how a measuring line is used.

It in fact defeats the purpose of calling it a measuring line.

How can accurate measurements be taken if the line doesn't touch the object being measured?

Does a tailor take your body measurements by just hanging the tape rule in front of your face?

Do you measure lines on a graph sheet just by suspending the ruler above it?

I am not worried how a person uses a measuring line. I am looking only at the verse, do you know for sure how God measures, is it like a person would measure. I ask that because The Bible states Gods way are not like ours.

anyway i have contributed a few thoughts, time to close

 

[Messenger 3k]

Nope, there is no such thing as absolute speed. All velocities are relative. This is something you should have learned in high school. Have you even flown in a jet plane?

You still aren't saying anything.

Why is 80mph different from 5mph?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You still aren't saying anything.

Why is 80mph different from 5mph?

I am sorry if basic English is difficult for you.

Once again, speeds are relative. Without stating what a speed or velocity is relative to your values are meaningless. Flat Earth believers make the mistake of thinking that they can feel motion. You cannot.

 

[Freodin]

Whether you dare say it or not doesn't make it correct.

Difficulties in using a software does not translate into a faulty idea.

It's not a problem of handling a software... it's a problem of construction.

I don't know your level of proficiency with the respective 3D program, but obviously you were able to create various shapes, place them, have them move.

So why not do that with what you think is the "real" look of the earth?

Is it a square? Then use a square. Is it a circle? Use a circle. That shouldn't be the problem.

No, I think the problem is that you have no idea of how it really looks like... but you present it to us as "reality".

That is a structural problem. A fundamental problem. A problem that you might notice the "globe" model doesn't have.

Perhaps you should pause for a moment and consider why your model does have that problem.

And I already listed some examples of these places.

Visit the Diomede Islands from Alaska in the US, head west towards its extremes and see if you burst out in Russia.

Well, yes, you would.
Is that where you say the "edge" is? Where you would run into an obstacle when you kept "heading west"?

Or visit Greenland from Europe and head roughly due north until you show up in South Africa.

That is not what the globe model presents. You would have to circumvent more than half of the globe before you reached South Africa.
But, yes, again, that has been done.

It is a question of distance.

Speed is speed. It's built on distance and time. The greater the speed, the greater the forces to contend with. And 1000 miles/hr is no small speed.

Angular considerations or not, straight line or not, driving 80mph isn't the same as driving 5mph.

So please explain your math.

I promise that I will... though it may take some time, it way past midnight here.

But first, I want you to consider something and answer me that. Bear with me, please, it is relevant.

How do you know that driving at 80mph is not the same as driving at 5mph?

 

[Messenger 3k]

I am not worried how a person uses a measuring line. I am looking only at the verse, do you know for sure God measures is it like a person would measure. I ask that because The Bible states Gods way are not like ours.

The scripture is not saying God would use a measuring line.

In the scripture God is asking Job if he knows who determined the earth's dimensions.

So God is asking in a way Job would understand, "who stretched a measuring line across it."

Not to mean God stretched an actual measuring line over the earth.

But it gives you an idea of the kind of dimension God is referring to; dimension of a curved or irregular object. A rope is best suited for such.

 

[Messenger 3k]

I am sorry if basic English is difficult for you.

Once again, speeds are relative. Without stating what a speed or velocity is relative to your values are meaningless. Flat Earth believers make the mistake of thinking that they can feel motion. You cannot.

Your case is hopeless.

 

[Messenger 3k]

Is it a square? Then use a square. Is it a circle? Use a circle. That shouldn't be the problem.

No, I think the problem is that you have no idea of how it really looks like... but you present it to us as "reality"

Wrong.

I know what it looks like.

That is the real look of the earth. You nitpicking on why I never used a circular map of my own, proves nothing.

What's the difference? I shrink the map, it fits. Then I fill in details on the edges.

But I've never been to the edges (as yourself) so how would I know?

You agree the edges exist, you just don't agree it ends there.

Well, yes, you would.
Is that where you say the "edge" is? Where you would run into an obstacle when you kept "heading west"?

Don't bother about obstacles, just head west and burst out east. Simple.

I promise that I will... though it may take some time, it way past midnight here.

I'll be waiting.

How do you know that driving at 80mph is not the same as driving at 5mph?

Drag force, resistance, inertia...etc.​

 

[Radagast]

You agree the edges exist, you just don't agree it ends there.

There are no edges.

Don't bother about obstacles, just head west and burst out east.

I've done it.

 

[pgp_protector]

Flat Earth is the best joke Satan ever came up with.

 

[pgp_protector]

You still aren't saying anything.

Why is 80mph different from 5mph?

Relative to the speed of light, they're not different.

 

[Messenger 3k]

I've done it.

Beautiful. Show us.

 

[topher694]

Brilliant. You ignore the fact that the scripture specifies what kind of argument it refers to (foolish arguments) and you leave out what it specifically speaks about (genealogies, and legal squabbles); then you input what you think it speaks about (the shape of the Earth).

Then NLT shows up and disagrees with you:

Do not get involved in foolish discussions about spiritual pedigrees or in quarrels and fights about obedience to Jewish laws. These things are useless and a waste of time. (NLT)

Now when you understand the entire context of Titus 3, a chapter in a book written by Paul to a likely non-Jew (Titus), encouraging him with the good news of salvation extended to the gentiles (no longer Jews alone), you'll understand better the sense of the scripture above.

Titus 1:10,

For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group (Jewish rite). (NIV)

But as is expected you've spoken out of lack of understanding; and if anything, have mostly been the one oddly interested in my spiritual pedigree.



This is all blind interpretation which projects itself in the guise of having understanding; when all that's needed sometimes is to be patient and read through other versions of scripture for better clarity.

Here: 2 Corinthians 10:5,

We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God. We capture their rebellious thoughts and teach them to obey Christ. (NLT)

Science particularly takes God out of the picture and tells you earth was formed out of a big bang, and humans (created in the image of God), emanated from apes. Now, unless apes were made in the image of God, I don't see how that aligns.

I especially like this other version:

We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. (NASB)

 

[Messenger 3k]

Flat Earth is the best joke Satan ever came up with.

The devil had no hand in flat earth. The opposite; he's struggling to silence it.

 

[Messenger 3k]

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Lol. Good morning.

 

[Messenger 3k]

Relative to the speed of light, they're not different

Responses that head nowhere.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your case is hopeless.

No, that appears to be your flaw. I could go over the basics of physics for you. Until you understand the sciences there is no way that you can understand your errors in interpreting the Bible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Responses that head nowhere.

Only for the uneducated.

 

[topher694]

I don't need deflection for that. I'm plainly letting you know you're not in any position to weigh my spiritual pedigree.

Actually I am. But clearly you have none to weigh.