Female Pastors & Bible Teachers

[Nilloc]

Wow.. I never knew Christianity was so sexist. Y'learn somethin' new every day. o.o

It often is, unfortunately.

 

[Entered]

I think women should exclusively be pastors and/or teachers.

 

[101c]

peace

 

[Entered]

2 Entered, greeting.
I think women should exclusively be pastors and/or teachers.

agreed, also I would like to say, and this is only me. the titles prophetess, and
deaconess, should not be used any more. because it applies to gender. and in Christ, we're neither male, or Female. but we're Spiritual in him. either you're a prophet, or you're a Deacon. to me Gender don't count.

Thanks.

I am obviously being a bit tongue and cheek here, but this sort of thing gets me down.

 

[101c]

Thanks.

I am obviously being a bit tongue and cheek here, but this sort of thing gets me down.

Peace

 

[MacFall]

Wow.. I never knew Christianity was so sexist. Y'learn somethin' new every day. o.o

It's not.

The gospel is an immensely liberating belief system, but it came out of a culture that was incredibly sexist. Unfortunately, the Apostles' and Church fathers' attempt to apply structure to the nascent church came through the filter of that culture, so now we have enough sexist tradition to give modern sexists an excuse to persist in their beliefs.

 

[101c]

It's not.

The gospel is an immensely liberating belief system, but it came out of a culture that was incredibly sexist. Unfortunately, the Apostles' and Church fathers' attempt to apply structure to the nascent church came through the filter of that culture, so now we have enough sexist tradition to give modern sexists an excuse to persist in their beliefs.

Peace

 

[Rhamiel]

I do not think that it is Biblical for women to become Priests, and the Catholic Church has been very strong agianst the ordination of women
what Protestant denominations do is up to them, I have no right to comment on their affairs

 

[Jupiter Drops]

Wow.. I never knew Christianity was so sexist. Y'learn somethin' new every day. o.o

It often is, unfortunately.

Christianity is not sexist. People who just don't understand say these things from the far shallow end.

 

[Boondock_Saint]

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Eh, I have seen both sides give plenty of scripture to back up what they believe. Accusing them of merely giving their opinion is a serious misrepresentation of BOTH sides and comments like that make me believe you haven't really read or paid attention to the last 10 pages.

You have seen "a lot" of "I thinks" "my opinions" because apparantly that is all you wanted to see. The fact that you ignored the scriptural arguments presented in this thread shows that you really don't have a refutation for these arguments so you just pretend like they don't exist.

"Thou shall not bear false witness". How's THAT for quoting scripture?

Wow. Why did you get mad? I wasn't lying. People are popping up in here just giving opinion.

I wasn't accusing a particular side. I was merely pointing out that some people are making statements based on what they thought of the bible when we were supposed to be discussing what the bible says. I was pointing it out to those making that mistake and not necessarily to you. I just want the discussion of the bible to be about the bible and not what we think about it. There are plenty of threads for what we "think." This isn't on of those threads.

But that's all. Any more scripture you want to throw in my face?

 

[ImperatorWall]

Female preachers is not Biblical, and women leading men is not wise.

 

[SnowyMacie]

(blind post)


There were women who were preachers and church leaders in the first century, one wrote even wrote a book in the bible.

 

[ImperatorWall]

(blind post)


There were women who were preachers and church leaders in the first century, one wrote even wrote a book in the bible.

Oh? Please enlighten us.

 

[SnowyMacie]

Oh? Please enlighten us.

-Phoebe, a deaconess in the church in Rome (Romans 16:1-2)
-Priscilla, a pastor in Ephesus (Acts 18:2, 18; Romans 16:3, and 1 Corinthians 16:19). She also one of the leading theories of authorship of Hebrews
- Euodia and Syntyche, leaders in church in Philippi who Paul says have worked by his side in Philippians 4
- Junia (Romans 16:7), well-known among the apostles

 

[acropolis]

Oh? Please enlighten us.

This might upset you, but the Christian church as you know it did not spring forth fully-formed in a single instant, but instead took hundreds of years to form. During that time, particularly in the first few hundred years, there were a variety of different Christian churches that were very different from the church as it is today.

 

[ImperatorWall]

-Phoebe, a deaconess in the church in Rome (Romans 16:1-2)
-Priscilla, a pastor in Ephesus (Acts 18:2, 18; Romans 16:3, and 1 Corinthians 16:19). She also one of the leading theories of authorship of Hebrews
- Euodia and Syntyche, leaders in church in Philippi who Paul says have worked by his side in Philippians 4
- Junia (Romans 16:7), well-known among the apostles

Phoebe - Deaconess, helped and distributed money to the poor. Not a position of leadership.

Priscilla - What verse exactly indicates that she was a pastor? No one knows who wrote Hebrews, so attempting to attribute the work to her is irrelevant.

Euodia and Syntyche - Again, what verse indicates these women had positions of leadership in the church?

Junia - Not a position of leadership.


I do hope you have sources for these bold claims.

 

[SnowyMacie]

Phoebe - Deaconess, helped and distributed money to the poor. Not a position of leadership.

Priscilla - What verse exactly indicates that she was a pastor? No one knows who wrote Hebrews, so attempting to attribute the work to her is irrelevant.

Euodia and Syntyche - Again, what verse indicates these women had positions of leadership in the church?

Junia - Not a position of leadership.


I do hope you have sources for these bold claims.

Bible.com

 

[ImperatorWall]

Bible.com

That article only states what you have already stated, without explaining why we are to believe these women had positions of leadership.

I see no nothing in the scripture or in your one cited source to lend your statements validity.

 

[SnowyMacie]

That article only states what you have already stated, without explaining why we are to believe these women had positions of leadership.

I see no nothing in the scripture or in your one cited source to lend your statements validity.

Sources outside scripture. Regardless, you may have a problem with women leading in the church, but that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I have no desire to change your opinion or really discuss it with you because it would just turn into an argument that I really don't want to spend the brainpower to do.

 

[acropolis]

It isn't clear to me exactly what kind of fundamental flaw women have which would prevent that from being effective leaders. Perhaps someone could enlighten me.