FBI investigation data in Rollingstone article

[ozso]

Can you post the complete text of all the documents in question? If not, what evidence are you looking at to come to this conclusion?

My conclusion is based on there being a lack of evidence of "nuclear documents".

 

[KCfromNC]

My conclusion is based on there being a lack of evidence of "nuclear documents".

Could there be any other possible reasons the government is keeping the contents of top secret documents secret?

 

[KCfromNC]

You're making his case for him.

Lying about there being no remaining top secret documents in his possession after being told they must be returned is showing he had no intent to keep them? You're gonna have to show your work, because taken at face value that makes no sense at all.

 

[ozso]

Could there be any other possible reasons the government is keeping the contents of top secret documents secret?

Yes. Why would you conclude that top secret would only be regulated to "nuclear documents"?

 

[sfs]

That's called conjecture. If the OP is wrong about that, it just means his speculation was incorrect.

No, his list of speculative alternatives was wrong. The entire premise of the thread, including especially the original title, was wrong. There was never any reason to think that any leak at all had happened and the suggestion that someone in the FBI had leaked the information in question was simply bearing false witness. This doesn't bother you at all -- in fact, you find it amusing that people here are upset by falsehood. That tells me everything I need to know.

 

[KCfromNC]

Yes. Why would you conclude that top secret would only be regulated to "nuclear documents"?

I haven't concluded anything. I was asking how you were so confident that the claims were false. Attempting to shift the burden of proof is an interesting approach.

 

[ozso]

No, his list of speculative alternatives was wrong. The entire premise of the thread, including especially the original title, was wrong. There was never any reason to think that any leak at all had happened and the suggestion that someone in the FBI had leaked the information in question was simply bearing false witness. This doesn't bother you at all -- in fact, you find it amusing that people here are upset by falsehood. That tells me everything I need to know.

I think it was simply a blunder. I've made the same kind of mistake myself. Was sure an article or Bible passage said something it didn't. I don't see it as grounds for anyone to throw a tantrum.

 

[ozso]

I haven't concluded anything. I was asking how you were so confident that the claims were false. Attempting to shift the burden of proof is an interesting approach.

I'm saying there's no evidence of the "nuclear document" claim. Nor is there any evidence that the documents contain anything Trump could have sold to Russia. It sounded like you thought only "nuclear documents" would be classified as top secret.

 

[BPPLEE]

Lying about there being no remaining top secret documents in his possession after being told they must be returned is showing he had no intent to keep them? You're gonna have to show your work, because taken at face value that makes no sense at all.

Who said it him or his lawyers?

 

[essentialsaltes]

You're making his case for him.

Somebody has to, because it won't be Christina Bobb any more.

Three people close to Trump acknowledged that Bobb and Corcoran could be in trouble and said Bobb is no longer expected to play a role in Trump’s legal defense. “Christina is not going to be on the motions going forward,” one of the people said.

 

[BPPLEE]

Somebody has to, because it won't be Christina Bobb any more.

Three people close to Trump acknowledged that Bobb and Corcoran could be in trouble and said Bobb is no longer expected to play a role in Trump’s legal defense. “Christina is not going to be on the motions going forward,” one of the people said.

More problems for his lawyers.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Somebody has to, because it won't be Christina Bobb any more.

Three people close to Trump acknowledged that Bobb and Corcoran could be in trouble and said Bobb is no longer expected to play a role in Trump’s legal defense. “Christina is not going to be on the motions going forward,” one of the people said.

Should not be a problem for someone who only hires the best. There is no shortage of outstanding lawyers waiting to be picked up by team Trump.

 

[ozso]

Trump should hire Jonny Depp's lawyer.

 

[BPPLEE]

Should not be a problem for someone who only hires the best. There is no shortage of outstanding lawyers waiting to be picked up by team Trump.

The ones I've seen on television are all young, attractive females. Maybe he needs to change his criteria.

 

[DaisyDay]

The ones I've seen on television are all young, attractive females. Maybe he needs to change his criteria.

You noticed that, too?

 

[Sparagmos]

I did a Ctri+F word search on both the warrant and affidavit, and “President of France" is not written in either of them. I'm not saying it wasn't made public. I've just been saying that info is not in the warrant or affidavit.

How is a leak not making info public? What you mean is neither law nor protocol was broken.

This is from the list that multiple people here have pointed you to. It was attached to the warrant that was released. If you read the warrant, you saw this list. I wonder what else you’re missing by ignoring the information and source documents out there?

 

[Sparagmos]

I think it was simply a blunder. I've made the same kind of mistake myself. Was sure an article or Bible passage said something it didn't. I don't see it as grounds for anyone to throw a tantrum.

No one is throwing a tantrum. If it was a blunder, the OP would have corrected it.

 

[stevil]

Russia Russia Russia

You know that the Russia investigation was the FBI investigating because a Republican official said stuff to some Australians, and later the investigation was re-instigated by the Republican Acting Attorney General, who maintained oversight of the investigation and made sure it focused on non Donald Trump members of the Trump presidential campaign.

 

[BPPLEE]

You know that the Russia investigation was the FBI investigating because a Republican official said stuff to some Australians, and later the investigation was re-instigated by the Republican Acting Attorney General, who maintained oversight of the investigation and made sure it focused on non Donald Trump members of the Trump presidential campaign.

Carter Page - Wikipedia
Page was a focus of the 2017 Special Counsel investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials and Russian interference on behalf of Trump during the 2016 presidential election.[2] In April 2019, the Mueller Report concluded that the investigation did not establish that Page coordinated in Russia's interference efforts.[5][6] In December 2019, the Inspector General for the Department of Justice, Michael E. Horowitz, issued a report on his inquiry into the Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) investigation of the 2016 Trump campaign and its ties to Russia. Horowitz found fault with specific aspects of the FBI's conduct, including omissions of facts and false statements to the FISA court when applying for a warrant to conduct surveillance on Page.

In 2019, the Justice Department determined the last two of four FISA warrants to surveil Page were invalid.[7][8] In 2020, Page sued the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI and former FBI Director James Comey for $75 million for the unlawful surveillance. The lawsuit stated that the surveillance "violated federal statutes enacted to prevent unlawful spying on United States persons, as well as the Constitution".

 

[stevil]

Carter Page - Wikipedia

Yeah, I know all about the Carter Page surveillance incident.
The FBI were too eager to surveil this guy, they did some errors in the application for a warrant, they got the warrant and the surveillance didn't turn up anything useful. But this was just a very small part of the Russian collusion investigation. It did not start the investigation and was immaterial to the overall investigation.