FBI investigation data in Rollingstone article

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But it mostly happens when they're guilty.

I was told that African Americans wind up in jail so often because they plead guilty to get lighter sentences because they can't afford a lawyer to fight the charges. Is that incorrect?
 
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I was told that African Americans wind up in jail so often because they plead guilty to get lighter sentences because they can't afford a lawyer to fight the charges. Is that incorrect?

I have no idea what you were told.
 
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I have no idea what you were told.

You actually do, since I just told you.
Now, is it incorrect that black people wind up in jail so often because they plead guilty to get lighter sentences because they can't afford a lawyer to fight the charges?
 
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You actually do, since I just told you.
Now, is it incorrect that black people wind up in jail so often because they plead guilty to get lighter sentences because they can't afford a lawyer to fight the charges?
Let’s say that this is true?
Would you have any problem with it, if it were?
 
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Let’s say that this is true?
Would you have any problem with it, if it were?

That's hardly relevant. Follow the flow of the discussion:
No, that is naive. Why then did the Oathkeepers plead guilty to seditious conspiracy?

People plead guilty all the time as part of a plea-deal if their lawyer is convinced that they'd either lose the case, or that an impartial jury would be hard to come by, or a good deal was enough to satisfy the client. Happens all the time.

But it mostly happens when they're guilty.

I was told that African Americans wind up in jail so often because they plead guilty to get lighter sentences because they can't afford a lawyer to fight the charges. Is that incorrect?

I have no idea what you were told.

You actually do, since I just told you.
Now, is it incorrect that black people wind up in jail so often because they plead guilty to get lighter sentences because they can't afford a lawyer to fight the charges?

People often do plead guilty even if they're not.
 
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That's hardly relevant. Follow the flow of the discussion:
People often do plead guilty even if they're not.
While it is true that people often plead guilty when they are not, it is almost entirely poor people who do that not those with lawyers on retainer.
 
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