Fake News (why russia is not the only proof of it existing)

[SolomonVII]

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And your foreign influence story - the story itself makes its own point - it was investigated and people pled guilty. Sure, it probably should have had more media coverage, but so be it.

This whole "But they did it first" routine is tiresome.

'So be it' indeed.
The so-called routine is not an accurate depiction of the argument being laid forth. The argument is not to excuse Republican bad behavior. The argument was that those conservatives who you yourself point out as criticizing Trump are exercising integrity. They are making the case that character matters too. Character is a part of their conservative agenda.

Contrast that to "sure, it probably should have had more coverage, but so be it".

So, why did it not have more coverage? In contrast, why is the Russian collusion scandal wall to wall MSM and has been even before there had been any evidence of anything at all?
That contrast defines fake news. Fake news is not holding Trump's feet to the fire for his gaffes and bad behavior, as he, like all politicians, would have us believe. It is the job of journalists to do this. They are acting well within the bounds of professional conduct to investigate any possible breach of propriety or law by the nations's top politicians.

The fake news is covering the one thing wall to wall, and not covering the other thing to a point where most people are not even aware of it having happened.
If it wasn't for National Review, which is an overtly conservative journal, who would even have known about the other?
And yet, in terms of laws being broken, that story outnumbers the Trump collusion story by a score of 22 convictions to zero.

'So be it' indeed.

It is not something I personally would lend my own 'amen' to though.


a·men
äˈmen,āˈmen/
exclamation

1. 1.
   uttered at the end of a prayer or hymn, meaning ‘so be it.’.
   • 
     

noun

 

[EpiscipalMe]

'So be it' indeed.
The so-called routine is not an accurate depiction of the argument being laid forth. The argument is not to excuse Republican bad behavior. The argument was that those conservatives who you yourself point out as criticizing Trump are exercising integrity. They are making the case that character matters too. Character is a part of their conservative agenda.

Contrast that to "sure, it probably should have had more coverage, but so be it".

So, why did it not have more coverage? In contrast, why is the Russian collusion scandal wall to wall MSM and has been even before there had been any evidence of anything at all?
That contrast defines fake news. Fake news is not holding Trump's feet to the fire for his gaffes and bad behavior, as he, like all politicians, would have us believe. It is the job of journalists to do this. They are acting well within the bounds of professional conduct to investigate any possible breach of propriety or law by the nations's top politicians.

The fake news is covering the one thing wall to wall, and not covering the other thing to a point where most people are not even aware of it having happened.
If it wasn't for National Review, which is an overtly conservative journal, who would even have known about the other?
And yet, in terms of laws being broken, that story outnumbers the Trump collusion story by a score of 22 convictions to zero.

'So be it' indeed.

It is not something I personally would lend my own 'amen' to though.


a·men
äˈmen,āˈmen/
exclamation

1. 1.
   uttered at the end of a prayer or hymn, meaning ‘so be it.’.

noun

I understand now that you define "fake news" differently than most. I agree with your sentiments.

However, most people, the president included, use "fake news" to indicate that they think, or want others to believe, that the reporting is overtly false.

 

[createdtoworship]

Trump Jr. Collusion russia gate and the MSM, phony dossier, GPS links back to DNC
(where is the coverage on this in the main stream media?)

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Trump Jr. Collusion russia gate and the MSM, phony dossier, GPS links back to DNC
(where is the coverage on this in the main stream media?)

Is the New York Times mainstream enough for you?
Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Trump Jr. Collusion russia gate and the MSM, phony dossier, GPS links back to DNC
(where is the coverage on this in the main stream media?)

Oh yeah, and Fusion GPS was initially funded by Republican opponents of Trump. Funny how Lou Dobbs left out that little tidbit in his partisan rant.
How a Sensational, Unverified Dossier Became a Crisis for Donald Trump

 

[createdtoworship]

Is the New York Times mainstream enough for you?
Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign

just as I thought they did not cover false dossier and links to gps.

 

[createdtoworship]

Oh yeah, and Fusion GPS was initially funded by Republican opponents of Trump. Funny how Lou Dobbs left out that little tidbit in his partisan rant.
How a Sensational, Unverified Dossier Became a Crisis for Donald Trump

matters not who funded it. there are few republicans that voice against trump, but when they do, they voice louder than their size.

 

[createdtoworship]

when doing a news search on google, no major news pops up when searching huma abedin, as a foreign russian diplomat doing favors for clinton. FITTON: Huma Abedin Emails Show Clinton Donors Receiving Special Treatment - Breitbart

main stream media is @fakenews

Liberals obsess with Trump and Russia yet will blatantly ignore Hillary's massive Russia deals that directly benefited her own foundation

 

[EpiscipalMe]

matters not who funded it. there are few republicans that voice against trump, but when they do, they voice louder than their size.

Of course it matters to your conspiracy theory. The whole point of Lou Dobbs' little tirade was links to the DNC. In fact, when Grassley raised his concerns in March, it had been primarily funded by Republicans.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

just as I thought they did not cover false dossier and links to gps.

Guess you didn't read the article. Here is the paragraph:
"In an interview, Mr. Corallo explained that Ms. Veselnitskaya, in her anti-Magnitsky campaign, employs a private investigator whose firm, Fusion GPS, produced an intelligence dossier that contained unproven allegations against the president. In a statement, the firm said, “Fusion GPS learned about this meeting from news reports and had no prior knowledge of it. Any claim that Fusion GPS arranged or facilitated this meeting in any way is false.”
Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign

 

[createdtoworship]

Guess you didn't read the article. Here is the paragraph:
"In an interview, Mr. Corallo explained that Ms. Veselnitskaya, in her anti-Magnitsky campaign, employs a private investigator whose firm, Fusion GPS, produced an intelligence dossier that contained unproven allegations against the president. In a statement, the firm said, “Fusion GPS learned about this meeting from news reports and had no prior knowledge of it. Any claim that Fusion GPS arranged or facilitated this meeting in any way is false.”
Trump Team Met With Lawyer Linked to Kremlin During Campaign

So then it proves my point, that they report news one way then turn around and refute the original post later, or refuse to comment on it entirely like the Russian aid to the Clinton foundation.

 

[createdtoworship]

when doing a news search on google, no major news pops up when searching huma abedin, as a foreign russian diplomat doing favors for clinton. FITTON: Huma Abedin Emails Show Clinton Donors Receiving Special Treatment - Breitbart

main stream media is @fakenews

Liberals obsess with Trump and Russia yet will blatantly ignore Hillary's massive Russia deals that directly benefited her own foundation

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Episcopal didn't even attempt to a dress this one. too factual for him.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

So then it proves my point, that they report news one way then turn around and refute the original post later, or refuse to comment on it entirely like the Russian aid to the Clinton foundation.

How dare they report more than just the conspiracy theory side of the story!

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Episcopal didn't even attempt to a dress this one. too factual for him.

Nah - just haven't had time to look it up.

However, Clinton Foundation donors receiving audiences with Secretary of State Clinton is an old story that holds water. So, on its face that post of your seemed remarkably plausible compared to your usual postings.

 

[createdtoworship]

Nah - just haven't had time to look it up.

However, Clinton Foundation donors receiving audiences with Secretary of State Clinton is an old story that holds water. So, on its face that post of your seemed remarkably plausible compared to your usual postings.

point being that the MSM (main stream media), conveniently ommited this from their news.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

point being that the MSM (main stream media), conveniently ommited this from their news.

That's fine. I know the MSM doesn't report everything and I know they have bias.

However, I am still not going to fall for every crazy conspiracy theory that gets presented.

 

[createdtoworship]

That's fine. I know the MSM doesn't report everything and I know they have bias.

However, I am still not going to fall for every crazy conspiracy theory that gets presented.

I think you are getting your threads confused. Just because one thread is in conspiracy section does not litigate all threads I post to be conspiracy. But you are correct, all I wish to relay is that by and large the stories propagated by the MSM are unsubstantiated and lack citations.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

I think you are getting your threads confused. Just because one thread is in conspiracy section does not litigate all threads I post to be conspiracy. But you are correct, all I wish to relay is that by and large the stories propagated by the MSM are unsubstantiated and lack citations.

You are right - I did get my threads confused.

 

[createdtoworship]

You are right - I did get my threads confused.

well, I think it's manly to admit error. Good job.

 

[jgarden]

Fake News (why russia is not the only proof of it existing)

"The Donald's" Made in America theme is a exercise in "fake news" - given that the labels on Trump merchandise tell a different story!