Fake News (why russia is not the only proof of it existing)

[Yarddog]

Yesterday, Donald Trump Struck a Righteous Blow against Universalism

We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have. The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?
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Trumps latest speech expert above perfectly defines something that the left can no longer grasp, and why the leftist press is so hell bent on deposing him through fake news.

Trump understands that culture matters, that freedom itself does not exist without the fabric of the West as developed over millennia creating the value system that makes freedom possible.
This is something that the elites on both the left and the right have forgotten, the Bushes as much as Obamas.
Luckily the American people have not, and in this speech Trump speaks for their American values in an age where so many do not even recognize that there is such a thing as American values.

I think that your phrase points out what is important in this. You wrote, " Trump's latest speech expert". It is clear that Trump didn't write that speech and it is amazing that he didn't deviate, like usual, and start all of his worthless blubbering.

 

[createdtoworship]

"the mainstream media if they cared about news, would be all over crowdstrike right now"

Lee Stranahan @stranahan

 

[Yarddog]

you admit there are trend reversals. So if a trend shows one thing for 10 years, it is theoretically "possible" the trend may reverse in the current year. You admit that already and in doing so cause your argument to self destruct.

Oh boy, why do you call yourself a logical debater?

 

[Yarddog]

@fake news
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Please provide proof that the media never asks Chelsea about her Father's treatment of women and that everything they talk to Ivanka they ask her about her Father's treatment of women.

 

[Yarddog]

CNN of course shows that they are drilling ivanka about trumps treatment of women
Ivanka Trump gets hisses, boos from German crowd when she defends her dad - CNNPolitics.com

Once is not every time as you claim. Please provide proof or admit that your meme was "fake news".

 

[createdtoworship]

Once is not every time as you claim. Please provide proof or admit that your meme was "fake news".

I gave an example in about 5 minutes of work, you need to try harder as you are losing rather poorly.

 

[Yarddog]

you have to prove it before saying it's fake news. I have posted about 20-30 proofs in this thread already. Yet you don't answer any of it.

You have yet to prove yours. When you do that I'll disprove this.

 

[Yarddog]

I gave an example in about 5 minutes of work, you need to try harder as you are losing rather poorly.

An example does not prove your meme which says "every time". You need to try wayyyyyyyyy harder because you lost before you started.

 

[Yarddog]

you have to prove it before saying it's fake news. I have posted about 20-30 proofs in this thread already. Yet you don't answer any of it.

You haven't posted 20-30 proofs. You posted many things out of context and claimed them as proof.

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[createdtoworship]

as trump declares, extremely fake news. EFN

 

[Yarddog]

as trump declares, extremely fake news. EFN

Please provide proof that any of her claims are actually fact.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

People are getting hip to fake news and very tired of it.

Trump was the first to really call it out for what it is -- Fake.

Fake polls also fall right in there.

I thought Hillary was suppose to win?
Nope -- more Fake news.

Polls -- state most don't care for Trump?
I don't believe them.

M-Bob

 

[EpiscipalMe]

People are getting hip to fake news and very tired of it.

Trump was the first to really call it out for what it is -- Fake.

Fake polls also fall right in there.

I thought Hillary was suppose to win?
Nope -- more Fake news.

Polls -- state most don't care for Trump?
I don't believe them.

M-Bob

Fake news (noun): news that does not support your worldview.

Also, the polls were not fake news, they just failed to predict the results of the election.

Seriously, though, Democrats have been facing fake news from right wing sources (Fox News, talk radio, Breitbart, Drudge, etc) for years.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

Even writers at the National Review are starting to believe there is something there.

Bungled Collusion Is Still Collusion
16 Things You Must Believe to Buy the ‘Witch Hunt’ Russia Narrative

 

[SolomonVII]

Even writers at the National Review are starting to believe there is something there.

Bungled Collusion Is Still Collusion
16 Things You Must Believe to Buy the ‘Witch Hunt’ Russia Narrative

National Review has always been luke-warm to cool to Trump, with many of the journalists there holding a lot of eternal animosity toward Trump, and for all the obvious reasons.
His obnoxiousness throughout his lifetime has hardly been a well-guarded secret. It is who he is.

It is not that there is no there 'there'. It is how does what is 'there' compare to the what had also been 'there' under Democratic presidents, from midnight drop-offs of unmarked bills on a Tehran tarmac, to Muslim brotherhood operatives in the Obama White House.

If you like your health care you can keep it (Ha, ha ha, the America voters are such dupes)The precedent has already been set. Lying does not matter to the partisan voter, girls getting their mouths abused under a presidential desk are not the concern of the feminist left, and complicity with America's enemies do not elicit any interest from the MSM— but if and only if is Democrats in the White House.

People that value integrity, like many of the National Review writers, have been lonely voices in the wilderness for too long now. They failed to deliver people with integrity, like say, Romney, to the WH.

Integrity stopped mattering a long time ago with the Democratic base, and the same thing is happening with the Republican base now too.

What the average American cares about any more is no longer integrity. It is the agenda.
And for Trump supporters a larger portion of that agenda is exposing the rot of the MSM for the fake news that it is.
It is not fake because there is not truth to it. It is fake because it is completely biased in its approach, with the only facts being reported and dwelled upon by the MSM being those facts that support their pre-existing Democratic agenda.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

National Review has always been luke-warm to cool to Trump, with many of the journalists there holding a lot of eternal animosity toward Trump, and for all the obvious reasons.
His obnoxiousness throughout his lifetime has hardly been a well-guarded secret. It is who he is.

It is not that there is no there 'there'. It is how does what is 'there' compare to the what had also been 'there' under Democratic presidents, from midnight drop-offs of unmarked bills on a Tehran tarmac, to Muslim brotherhood operatives in the Obama White House.

If you like your health care you can keep it (Ha, ha ha, the America voters are such dupes)The precedent has already been set. Lying does not matter to the partisan voter, girls getting their mouths abused under a presidential desk are not the concern of the feminist left, and complicity with America's enemies do not elicit any interest from the MSM— but if and only if is Democrats in the White House.

People that value integrity, like many of the National Review writers, have been lonely voices in the wilderness for too long now. They failed to deliver people with integrity, like say, Romney, to the WH.

Integrity stopped mattering a long time ago with the Democratic base, and the same thing is happening with the Republican base now too.

What the average American cares about any more is no longer integrity. It is the agenda.
And for Trump supporters a larger portion of that agenda is exposing the rot of the MSM for the fake news that it is.
It is not fake because there is not truth to it. It is fake because it is completely biased in its approach, with the only facts being reported and dwelled upon by the MSM being those facts that support their pre-existing Democratic agenda.

You complain about fake news in the same post that you claim Obama paid off Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated his administration?

How ironic.

 

[SolomonVII]

You complain about fake news in the same post that you claim Obama paid off Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrated his administration?

How ironic.

I gave the links. And it is not as if this is something that is a wide open secret either.
But these are the things that the MSM had no interest in covering, and that the partisans on the left have no interest in listening to.
but if you want to stick to NR ....:

The sprawling fundraising scandal ultimately led to 22 guilty pleas on various violations of election laws.

Read more at: Not All Foreign-Influence Scandals Are Created Equal​

....let's give their other half of the story too then.^^^ That is what integrity involves. It is not integrity to expose the dirt on your opponents, and cover up or ignore the same kind of dirty on those you are cheerleading for.

The precedent has already been set, whether you want to see it or not.

And the fact that you chose to ignore it all is not even ironic anymore. That is just some of the same old same old that, again, clearly demonstrates to me that integrity is just not important in American politics anymore.
You make my case for me.
Thanks for that.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

I gave the links. And it is not as if this is something that is a wide open secret either.
But these are the things that the MSM had no interest in covering, and that the partisans on the left have no interest in listening to.
but if you want to stick to NR ....:

The sprawling fundraising scandal ultimately led to 22 guilty pleas on various violations of election laws.

Read more at: Not All Foreign-Influence Scandals Are Created Equal​

....let's give their other half of the story too then.^^^ That is what integrity involves. It is not integrity to expose the dirt on your opponents, and cover up or ignore the same kind of dirty on those you are cheerleading for.

The precedent has already been set, whether you want to see it or not.

And the fact that you chose to ignore it all is not even ironic anymore. That is just some of the same old same old that, again, clearly demonstrates to me that integrity is just not important in American politics anymore.
You make my case for me.
Thanks for that.

I tried to confirm the Muslim Brotherhood story you posted. Besides the link you provided, the only other sites that discuss it are well-known purveyors of falsehoods Could be media bias, I suppose, could also be that the story is garbage.

As for the $400 million to Iran. It has been reported over and over that we owed them that money. It has also been reported over and over that it may have been given back at that time in order to get US hostages back. I'm not really that offended.

And your foreign influence story - the story itself makes its own point - it was investigated and people pled guilty. Sure, it probably should have had more media coverage, but so be it.

This whole "But they did it first" routine is tiresome.