Exodus is not supported by archaeology.

[Rene Loup]

So, to repeat the question, who do you think would have the power and money to buy off the numerous archaeologists & historians working in that field, and what would be their incentive?

Been there, done that.

In short: Many different people with their own agendas throughout history. The human race is stubborn like that.

 

[public hermit]

Good.

It's nice to know a principle of the Bible is taught in Chinese culture.

Some form of the golden rule can be found in most cultures and religions. It's not a specifically biblical principle that is happily taught in other cultures. It seems to be a principle that virtually every human culture develops/discovers.

Golden Rule - Wikipedia

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

What a pathetically patronizing post.

Yup; especially as the Golden Rule predates Christianity.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

In short: Many different people with their own agendas throughout history. The human race is stubborn like that.

That's an answer to a different question.

The Conspiracy Theories forum is that way →

 

[sjastro]

Meanwhile back to the Hyksos.

If you study “fake news” from ancient Egypt, you would consider the Hyksos a band of nasty, marauding outsiders who invaded and then brutally ruled the Nile Delta until heroic kings expelled them. In fact, the Hyksos had a more diplomatic impact, contributing to progress in culture, language, military affairs and even the introduction of the iconic horse and chariot. The story of these two competing explanations reveals much about ancient Egypt and this mysterious group.

During their rule, Hyksos kings were constantly renegotiating their identities as the context demanded, emphasizing Egyptian traditions or their West Asian origins. They adopted elements of Egyptian kingship, including royal titles, throne names, hieroglyphic inscriptions, scribal activity and worshipping the Egyptian pantheon. Yet they maintained the unusual Heka Khasut title with their Semitic/Amorite personal names, and the major monuments of their capital city were unmistakably Near Eastern in architectural style. They also melded Egyptian administrative structures with tribal approaches of Amorite groups like those at the Middle Bronze Age sites of Mari and Qatna. The recent discovery of a fragment of a cuneiform tablet in the palace at Avaris indicates the Hyksos remained in diplomatic contact with the highest Amorite networks, in this case the Old Babylonian Dynasty of Hammurabi.

The Hyksos

Our knowledge of Egyptian mathematics and medicine comes from the Hyksos.
The Rhind mathematical papyrus being an example.

 

[Rene Loup]

That's an answer to a different question.

The Conspiracy Theories forum is that way →

I forgive that Appeal to Ridicule Fallacy. I'm now choosing not to engage with you any further. God bless.

 

[sjastro]

The ancient Egyptians had their own version of the Golden Rule as well.

In the Duat, the Egyptian underworld, the hearts of the dead were said to be weighed against her single "Feather of Maat", symbolically representing the concept of Maat, in the Hall of Two Truths. This is why hearts were left in Egyptian mummies while their other organs were removed, as the heart (called "ib") was seen as part of the Egyptian soul. If the heart was found to be lighter or equal in weight to the feather of Maat, the deceased had led a virtuous life and would go on to Aaru. Osiris came to be seen as the guardian of the gates of Aaru after he became part of the Egyptian pantheon and displaced Anubis in the Ogdoad tradition. A heart which was unworthy was devoured by the goddess Ammit and its owner condemned to remain in the Duat.[62]

The weighing of the heart, as typically pictured on papyrus in the Book of the Dead, or in tomb scenes, shows Anubis overseeing the weighing and Ammit seated awaiting the results to consume those who failed. The image contains a balancing scale with an upright heart standing on one side and the Shu-feather standing on the other. Other traditions hold that Anubis brought the soul before the posthumous Osiris who performed the weighing. While the heart was weighed the deceased recited the 42 Negative Confessions as the Assessors of Maat looked on

 

[AV1611VET]

The ancient Egyptians had their own version of the Golden Rule as well.

The Egyptians came from Mizraim, Noah's grandson; and the Chinese came from Sina, Noah's great-grandson.

Notice here ...

Chinese Characters and Genesis

... where the Chinese incorporated Biblical doctrines into their alphabet.

The Egyptians knew Biblical doctrine as well.

 

[loveofourlord]

Some form of the golden rule can be found in most cultures and religions. It's not a specifically biblical principle that is happily taught in other cultures. It seems to be a principle that virtually every human culture develops/discovers.

Golden Rule - Wikipedia

plus I kinda like other versions better, do unto others as THEY have you do unto them.

 

[public hermit]

plus I kinda like other versions better, do unto others as THEY have you do unto them.

Nice. That makes one much more cautious.

Edit: It makes one more attentive, which is good.

 

[Douger]

Or maybe, as with noahs ark, its time to admit its not there?

Well that wouldn't make sense seeing how much literary and archeological evidence there is for the Exodus.

 

[loveofourlord]

Nice. That makes one much more cautious.

Edit: It makes one more attentive, which is good.

Also I think the other golden rule is a good way to excuse harm. "Well if I was gay I would want someone to make me realize I was wrong and must be straight." kind of deal because it's what YOU would want done to you.

 

[public hermit]

Also I think the other golden rule is a good way to excuse harm. "Well if I was gay I would want someone to make me realize I was wrong and must be straight." kind of deal because it's what YOU would want done to you.

I think I see what you're saying. The reflexive version allows us to justify our bad actions.

 

[Astrid]

Well that wouldn't make sense seeing how much literary and archeological evidence there is for the Exodus.

What Archaeology?
Not from Ron Wyatt I hope.

The Exodus: Does archaeology have a say?

 

[Douger]

What Archaeology?
Not from Ron Wyatt I hope.

Not sure who that is.
We have evidence of a large semitic presence in Egypt, we have pretty good knowledge of the Egyptian labor system. We also know that the Egyptian dominated Amorite civilization in the Levant was destroyed and replaced by Hebrew culture.
That combined with the preponderance of ancient literary evidence, makes it a compelling story. Certainly no reason to "admit it's not there".

 

[loveofourlord]

I think I see what you're saying. The reflexive version allows us to justify our bad actions.

yeah, not saying most do it, but I can see that kind of thinking.

 

[Astrid]

Not sure who that is.
We have evidence of a large semitic presence in Egypt, we have pretty good knowledge of the Egyptian labor system. We also know that the Egyptian dominated Amorite civilization in the Levant was destroyed and replaced by Hebrew culture.
That combined with the preponderance of ancient literary evidence, makes it a compelling story. Certainly no reason to "admit it's not there".

Iow, no archaeology.

Compelling for those who want to be compelled.

Look up Ron Wyatt, it might be entertaining.

He only discredits himself, not any bible story.

 

[Douger]

Iow, no archaeology.

Compelling for those who want to be compelled.

Look up Ron Wyatt, it might be entertaining.

He only discredits himself, not any bible story.

No, in other words there is archaeology. Archaeology doesn't mean uncovering a scene by scene diorama of the events. But it establishes the existence of the settings and the premise of the written accounts which then lends credence to those written accounts.

Yes, I'm compelled by history. Guilty.

 

[Astrid]

No, in other words there is archaeology. Archaeology doesn't mean uncovering a scene by scene diorama of the events. But it establishes the existence of the settings and the premise of the written accounts which then lends credence to those written accounts.

Yes, I'm compelled by history. Guilty.

As per artivle- " is there archaeological evidence? In short, no"

I dontbneedva lesson on what archaeology is. You ever been outvto,
taken part in, a dig?

The " archaeology" for Joseph Smiths gold books is similarly
compelling. Eye witness sworn testimony, detailed history of
the setting, complete transcript of the books.

All that is missing is the books themselves.
Like the actual " exodus " that way.

Now, if the idea is that the books were miraculous in nature,
and inspired J smith to write them
That the red sea crossing, desert wandering etc was all miraculous,
you dont need and surely will not get evidence.

One believes in miracles according to how compelled they
FEEL to do so, not by the evidence of real gold books or
chariot wheels in the seabed, for lo, there be none.

But be thou comforted by these Signs, for if truly
" compelled", if Proof incarnadine you should'st behold,
then Faith be made naught.

In brief -there is never evidence for anything supernatural
in the bible.
Some say its because of the need for faith.
I think its the other way around-

The way it is for every other religion or superstition.

 

[sjastro]

The Egyptians came from Mizraim, Noah's grandson; and the Chinese came from Sina, Noah's great-grandson.

Notice here ...

Chinese Characters and Genesis

... where the Chinese incorporated Biblical doctrines into their alphabet.

The Egyptians knew Biblical doctrine as well.

Only in your deluded imaginary world are such claims possible.
Given that Noah and his direct descendants were of Middle Eastern origin it was quite a nifty trick the Chinese came from a great grandson.
I suppose Mongolians came from another of Noah's descendants as did the Koreans; and what about the Japanese?
@Estrid can put your claim to the test by undergoing a genealogical DNA test to determine if her origins are from the Middle East.