Excluding Farmer's Market Vendor for Refusing to Host Same-Sex Weddings

[RileyG]

Can you articulate why this comparison has caused you “offense”?

It's offensive to compare race (something you can't choose) to sexual behavior (something you can choose).

 

[RileyG]

Therefore “no gay wedding events”?
There’s some parts missing, I’m almost sure of it.

No. I was referring to homosexuals being promiscuous.

 

[Pommer]

It's offensive to compare race (something you can't choose) to sexual behavior (something you can choose).

How about sexual orientation, does one “choose that” too?

 

[Pommer]

No. I was referring to homosexuals being promiscuous.

Until 2016 what choice did they have with regards to legal monogamy?

 

[RileyG]

How about sexual orientation, does one “choose that” too?

Depends who you ask. Many in the LGBT community now say it's a choice.

 

[RileyG]

Until 2016 what choice did they have with regards to legal monogamy?

They are still promiscuous regardless of legal monogamy. They do not care about their relationships. I've seen it. Lord, have mercy.

 

[Pommer]

Depends who you ask. Many in the LGBT community now say it's a choice.

Cite these “many” please.

 

[RileyG]

Cite these “many” please.

Just from personal observation. I have nothing to cite. Besides, sexual behavior and sexual orientation are not the same.

 

[Pommer]

They are still promiscuous regardless of legal monogamy. They do not care about their relationships. I've seen it. Lord, have mercy.

Eddie Fisher was married five times, Mickey Roonie seven.

 

[RileyG]

Eddie Fisher was married five times, Mickey Roonie seven.

You're right. Don't forget Elizabeth Taylor.

But I have a brother who is active in the lifestyle. I've seen how it destroyed him. Which is why I am vocal against it. IT breaks my heart.

 

[Pommer]

Just from personal observation. I have nothing to cite. Besides, sexual behavior and sexual orientation are not the same.

We agree that sexual behavior and sexual orientation are not the same.
Most heterosexual aren’t monogamous either…but we needn’t run that rabbit hole.

 

[RileyG]

We agree that sexual behavior and sexual orientation are not the same.
Most heterosexual aren’t monogamous either…but we needn’t run that rabbit hole.

agreed...that's a whole different can of worms...

 

[KCfromNC]

Except that scripture never said interracial marriage was sinful. It does say homosexual sex is.

And here I thought the talking point was that this was about making cakes for gay weddings.

Funny how the spin keeps changing each time an argument in favor of discriminating against gay people get shot down.

 

[KCfromNC]

Except the actual people we're hosting an actual event that the baker didn't want to participate in.

I doubt anyone was trying to force the baker to come to the wedding. They just wanted to buy a cake.

He didn't want to create a contract with them for the event they were holding.

And he only had that objection after learning about the orientiation of the customer.

 

[KCfromNC]

Hers a quote of you bearing false witness again. No one has claimed you can't bake cakes for a minority group.

Then gay customers can buy wedding cakes just like straight customers? Because I've seen a lots of discussion about how selling the same cakes to the wrong types of customers is very very damaging to their religious freedom or something.

If that were true, no LGBT people could by any cake from the baker.

I'm not sure where this idea is that one must discriminate in every single case for discrimination to occur.
I always thought it was when a business decided which customers to sell to based on the traits of the customer.

That's a deliberate falsehood and a deliberate misrepresentation. Seriously dude you are just either trolling or gaslighting. Take your pick.

I do continue to appreciate the need to try to make this about me. It just shows how weak these far right talking points are that every post is an attempt to distract the thread with fabrications.

Hers what the scriptures say about this.

try to determine what will please the Lord. Have nothing to do with the deeds produced by darkness, but instead expose them, for it is shameful even to speak of the things these people do in secret. But everything exposed to the light is revealed clearly for what it is, since anything revealed is a light. This is why it says,“Get up, sleeper! Arise from the dead,and the Messiah will shine on you!” Therefore, pay careful attention to how you conduct your life — live wisely, not unwisely. Use your time well, for these are evil days. So don’t be foolish, but try to understand what the will of the Lord is.
Bible Gateway passage: Ephesians 5:10, Ephesians 5:11, Ephesians 5:12, Ephesians 5:13, Ephesians 5:14, Ephesians 5:15, Ephesians 5:16, Ephesians 5:17 - Complete Jewish Bible


See that?

I see nothing about not selling cakes to gay customers in there. I mean, sure, if one were motivated one might be able to extract some sort of justification for doing so, even while ignoring a whole bunch of other customers who also sin.
Kinda like how in previous generations, verses were used to justify other preexisting opinions about who businesses didn't want to sell to.

The more things change...

 

[KCfromNC]

Back-in-the-day the conversation would go like this:

I have nothing against homosexuals, but they tend to be promiscuous

Well, they kind of forced into that because we don’t let them get married

Two men cannot be married!

That’s only by convention; if they were allowed to be married, then they wouldn’t be promiscuous

But if we allowed the to be married then how could we still maintain that their lifestyle is evil?

I thought you said you had a problem with their promiscuousness?

They’re homosexuals, that’s all I need to know, I don’t wanna think about this anymore!

That, plus the conspicuous lack of applying these same standards to customers who aren't gay. Almost as if it's all just rationalizations for the real reason, a reason which is trying to be hidden for some reason. It's really strange that would be necessary, given all the talk about how the businesses supporting discrimination are morally superior and all.

 

[KCfromNC]

The wedding service is being denied.

Really? What examples do you have of a baker being asked to participate in a wedding service?

Typically they just bake cakes.

 

[KCfromNC]

We could do away with “public accommodation laws” altogether!
Win-win!

Learn from history?
Never!
I'm sure separate but equal will work this time around ... it'll be different, you know, because reasons and such.

 

[KCfromNC]

It's also rampant in the heterosexual community. I've seen it.

Yeah, but that's a sin a majority of people who agree with me might be involved in. Making a big deal virtue signaling against the bigger sin might lose me too many customers.

 

[KCfromNC]

Just how many Christian bakers are out there refusing to bake wedding cakes for gay couples?

Statistically most people don't kill anyone. Doesn't mean we shouldn't prosecute the people who do break the law in that way.