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Ex-Con Hovind released from the pokey.

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When you determine if a scientist is credible or not, do you do it the same way you determined whether Hovind was credible?

I've heard Hovind speak many times. He has said what is in sync with what i find that makes most sense re: creation, etc.

These scientists, to be honest, were a bit confusing in the link. It reminded me of someone playing a shell game. Their credibility had not been established from that little bit of information via the link provided.
 
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I've heard Hovind speak many times. He has said what is in sync with what i find that makes most sense re: creation, etc.

These scientists, to be honest, were a bit confusing in the link. It reminded me of someone playing a shell game. Their credibility had not been established from that little bit of information via the link provided.
It only makes sense to you because you're a YEC, and your need for it to be true, trumps the reality of it not being true.
 
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I've heard Hovind speak many times. He has said what is in sync with what i find that makes most sense re: creation, etc.

What about the lies he tells, like those about mammoths? Is that in keeping with what makes sense to you, that you have to lie about the facts in order to support creationism?
 
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Into bible trivia, are you?

That was not my intention, but ok, yes, BIble Trivia.

Where in the Bible does God sing?

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I've heard Hovind speak many times. He has said what is in sync with what i find that makes most sense re: creation, etc.

These scientists, to be honest, were a bit confusing in the link. It reminded me of someone playing a shell game. Their credibility had not been established from that little bit of information via the link provided.
You don't like science because it's hard to understand?
 
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I agree it was an "evil" law.

I am researching taxes and the requirement thereof of paying them. The controversy perhaps lies in the "interpretation" of any such law, and whether it has a fer-real "leg" to stand on.

If it is oppressive and unjust and bludgeoning the masses, yes, perhaps it is an evil law and should be challenged.

The interpretation of the law was what Hovind's court case was all about. A jury of his peers convicted Hovind of breaking those laws as it is interpreted across the entire US. Everyone agrees that not paying your taxes is against the law. It isn't a tough idea to comprehend.
 
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I've heard Hovind speak many times. He has said what is in sync with what i find that makes most sense re: creation, etc.

These scientists, to be honest, were a bit confusing in the link. It reminded me of someone playing a shell game. Their credibility had not been established from that little bit of information via the link provided.

Maybe your confusion comes from lack of understanding of the topic they are talking about. Has that thought ever crossed your mind, or is that impossible?

There is a very strong correlation between, higher levels of education attained and a much greater understanding and acceptance of the theory of evolution.

Everyone is ignorant of many things and especially so, of topics that require a good bit of work, to understand. That is why the doctor you go to, had to go to school for so long, to understand how the body works and oh by the way, doctors know as well as anyone, how powerful the theory of evolution is, when understanding how to treat certain diseases.

Just for kicks, next time you go to the doctor, ask them if they agree with evolution.
 
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And it firmly established Caesar is owed taxes. I don't see any reference by Jesus that says; take away what you owe Caesar and give it to God.

I also don't see anything in the Bible where it says that if your name is spelled in all capital letters on your Social Security card it means that you don't have to pay taxes.
 
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i never claimed to be a scientist, however my reasoning and logic skills are quite adept

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One person claims that two samples from the same mammoth have very different carbon dates. That person claims that this indicates carbon dating doesn't work.

When that person's references are checked, it turns out that those samples came from two different mammoths, not the same mammoth.

Using your logic and reasoning skills, please tell us if that person is telling the truth.
 
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One person claims that two samples from the same mammoth have very different carbon dates. That person claims that this indicates carbon dating doesn't work.

When that person's references are checked, it turns out that those samples came from two different mammoths, not the same mammoth.

Using your logic and reasoning skills, please tell us if that person is telling the truth.

That's not enough information. It only raises more questions......
 
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That's not enough information. It only raises more questions......

Such as?

If it has been confirmed these results came from two different sources vs one, as Hovind claimed, it could be he was simply confused or mistaken. But, if that was the case and he realized it indeed came from two sources, the honest thing to do would have been to admit you were wrong that it only came from one source.

Did he do the honest thing?
 
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Such as?

If it has been confirmed these results came from two different sources vs one, as Hovind claimed, it could be he was simply confused or mistaken. But, if that was the case and he realized it indeed came from two sources, the honest thing to do would have been to admit you were wrong that it only came from one source.

Did he do the honest thing?

the information given is like snippets of information here and there.......i would like to hear/read more details on this mammoth(s) to get a clearer picture of how this originated and by whom, and not just a very brief synopsis of "theories" on this mammoth(s).

Scientists have been mistaken, erred many times before in the past. They gots lots o' 'splainin' to do, mon.

Perhaps it would help to find someone who can articulate their side.
 
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