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Evolution is proven false!

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Hm. I'm a little torn.

On one hand, you could just be some fresh young creationist who thinks he's got a solid argument but has no clue how misled he's been.

On the other hand, you've mispelled 'school' twice, which just screams of a poe.

Anyway, whatever the case, here's an actual chart on population growth done by actual scientists who've studied the actual data.

WorldPopulationGraph_yearPre7000BCto2025AD_metalAges_703x578.jpg
 
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This site will not allow me to post the link to the study.

Assuming it exists, you can at least give us the name of the study and we can Google it on our own.

But again, assuming it exists...
 
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Your store bought scientific data is just that. 100% of the errant study of evolution is BS! NOTHING that has any merit whatsoever. The ONLY merit is the fact that people are too stupid to research for themselves and believe the store bought PHDs like the blowhard dawkins who, when he says anything at all the whole scientific community bows in reverence! This idiocy is all that surrounds the whole errant study of evolution! One man whom the scientific community bows to over every word the proceeds out of his inflamed brain.
 
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Your store bought scientific data is just that. 100% of the errant study of evolution is BS! NOTHING that has any merit whatsoever. The ONLY merit is the fact that people are too stupid to research for themselves and believe the store bought PHDs like the blowhard dawkins who, when he says anything at all the whole scientific community bows in reverence! This idiocy is all that surrounds the whole errant study of evolution! One man whom the scientific community bows to over every word the proceeds out of his inflamed brain.

Yes, the entire scientific community bows to the whim of Charles Dawkins. Even people in fields he has nothing to do with.

Dawkins is a famous atheist and speaker, but it's not like he has any real sway in the community. I don't think he even does research anymore.
 
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Evolution Debunked by world population
is the name of the study.

That's not a study, it's a video by Carl Bough, a man so dodgy that even Ken Ham warns to steer clear of him.

Funnily enough, I've seen the video. He just makes the same claims you made, and sites no actual source for them. So. Try again.
 
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The reason I use the two year old is the fact that ANYBODY with half a brain can see how errant the old earth and the study, NOT theory of evolution is.
Darwin himself said his theory would not be valid without transitional species, and there are NONE!

What do you think of this guy's take on Darwin and his theory? Do you think Francis Collins has "half a brain"?

Karl Giberson: One of the things I appreciate a lot about Darrel Falk, who I think is a courageous voice in this conversation, is that he will come out and say that common ancestry is simply a fact. And that if you’re not willing to concede that the genetic evidence points to common ancestry than you’re essentially denying the field of biology the possibility of having facts at all. That’s the strong language that he uses.

Would you say that common ancestry and evolution in general is at that level? How compelling is the evidence at this point?

Francis Collins: The evidence is overwhelming. And it is becoming more and more robust down to the details almost by the day, especially because we have this ability now to use the study of DNA as a digital record of the way Darwin’s theory has played out over the course of long periods of time.

Darwin could hardly have imagined that there would turn out to be such strong proof of his theory because he didn’t know about DNA - but we have that information. I would say we are as solid in claiming the truth of evolution as we are in claiming the truth of the germ theory. It is so profoundly well-documented in multiple different perspectives, all of which give you a consistent view with enormous explanatory power that make it the central core of biology. Trying to do biology without evolution would be like trying to do physics without mathematics


Francis Collins and Karl Giberson Talk about Evolution and the Church, Part 2 | The BioLogos Forum
 
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OH yeah the two year old association I used was for this reason, the population problem. ANY two year old could figure this out!

I think you have to use 0.5% growth for the 4000 years to work. That's what Henry Morris did when he put out this argument.

Maybe you could let your inner two-year old try this application for size?

Assuming the 0.5% constant growth is correct, how many people were on the earth at the time Jesus lived? Around 200,000. And we know for a fact that the population of the city of Rome at that time was more than a million.
After just 1000 years? Less than 1000.
The pyramids of Egypt are supposed to have been build just 100 years or so after the flood. How many people were around to haul all those stones? Less than 15.

Great argument, right?
 
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IF you take every PHD or so called scientists word as fact I feel for you.
In todays world where PHDs are bought every day. . .The false claims of monsanto that GMO creates more yield while reducing the use of chemicals proves this fact. I have to laugh that one out of existence. Monsanto proves the sickening 98IQ of USA!
Whether anybody wants to "believe" it or not conspiracies do happen, but the real theories are the ones made up by the lamestream megaliars who will say anything their pet politician wants them to. Same goes for ALL scientists who are offered $$$ to write some idiotic lies and the 98IQ America love it and believe every word. THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN THE CONDITION WE ARE IN! Nobody wants to research for themselves, they rely wholly on their proven extremely effective stupid box, which hitler himself perfected to the point of "if you tell a lie enough times the masses will believe it"!
Do you actually believe the numbers you quoted to me?
 
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IF you take every PHD or so called scientists word as fact I feel for you.
In todays world where PHDs are bought every day. . .The false claims of monsanto that GMO creates more yield while reducing the use of chemicals proves this fact. I have to laugh that one out of existence. Monsanto proves the sickening 98IQ of USA!
Whether anybody wants to "believe" it or not conspiracies do happen, but the real theories are the ones made up by the lamestream megaliars who will say anything their pet politician wants them to. Same goes for ALL scientists who are offered $$$ to write some idiotic lies and the 98IQ America love it and believe every word. THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN THE CONDITION WE ARE IN! Nobody wants to research for themselves, they rely wholly on their proven extremely effective stupid box, which hitler himself perfected to the point of "if you tell a lie enough times the masses will believe it"!
Do you actually believe the numbers you quoted to me?

What about empirical evidence that is independent of any human beings opinion?
 
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IF you take every PHD or so called scientists word as fact I feel for you.
In todays world where PHDs are bought every day. . .The false claims of monsanto that GMO creates more yield while reducing the use of chemicals proves this fact. I have to laugh that one out of existence. Monsanto proves the sickening 98IQ of USA!
Whether anybody wants to "believe" it or not conspiracies do happen, but the real theories are the ones made up by the lamestream megaliars who will say anything their pet politician wants them to. Same goes for ALL scientists who are offered $$$ to write some idiotic lies and the 98IQ America love it and believe every word. THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN THE CONDITION WE ARE IN! Nobody wants to research for themselves, they rely wholly on their proven extremely effective stupid box, which hitler himself perfected to the point of "if you tell a lie enough times the masses will believe it"!
Do you actually believe the numbers you quoted to me?

Looks like we have another know-nothing conspiracy websites fanboy.
 
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OH yeah the two year old association I used was for this reason, the population problem. ANY two year old could figure this out!

IF you take every PHD or so called scientists word as fact I feel for you.
In todays world where PHDs are bought every day. . .The false claims of monsanto that GMO creates more yield while reducing the use of chemicals proves this fact. I have to laugh that one out of existence. Monsanto proves the sickening 98IQ of USA!
Whether anybody wants to "believe" it or not conspiracies do happen, but the real theories are the ones made up by the lamestream megaliars who will say anything their pet politician wants them to. Same goes for ALL scientists who are offered $$$ to write some idiotic lies and the 98IQ America love it and believe every word. THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN THE CONDITION WE ARE IN! Nobody wants to research for themselves, they rely wholly on their proven extremely effective stupid box, which hitler himself perfected to the point of "if you tell a lie enough times the masses will believe it"!
Do you actually believe the numbers you quoted to me?

If you're a poe, send me a PM. I won't tell anyone...
 
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Today's "intellects" are quite a joke! If someone like me can see through the idiotic statements and false theories, based solely on common sense, then how can intelligent people not see through the same thing?
I can answer that very simply, but it takes belief in God to understand this: God opens our eyes as we seek Him. IF God revealed everything to humanity all at once humanity would cease to exist! God, in His infinite wisdom and love spares us from that ever happening by REVEALING Himself slowly to us erring humans so as we begin to see more and more of Him, and His infinite wisdom He will give us answers to give to inquisitive minds like yours. Only by studying God's word can one expect to receive God's infinite wisdom little by little. Those who fight against studying God's word have no idea what I am talking about, but those, like Jane who just joined know very well what revelation from God means.
 
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Empirical "evidence" of what? The "empirical evidence" is based on lies spewed by the lametream megaliars and store bought PHDs. Of course all the 98IQers who sit in front of their idiot box will believe whatever that mind killing machine says!
Wake up Bhsmte.
I know for a fact that I am on the right track. Do you know why I know? Because the only thing I will get from now on is name calling like above. Frankly I don't care what anybody thinks of me, but to criticize me personally over this is very childish indeed! If you do not agree with what I write then say so and show me why, but to start the name calling just to bash my credibility, which is quite impossible because I know where my wisdom comes from and it is not of this world, is out of line. So lets all be gentle folks and agree to disagree instead of lowering ourselves to name calling of EACH OTHER!
 
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Today's "intellects" are quite a joke! If someone like me can see through the idiotic statements and false theories, based solely on common sense, then how can intelligent people not see through the same thing?

Perhaps because you are wrong and the intelligent people aren't?


I can answer that very simply, but it takes belief in God to understand this: God opens our eyes as we seek Him. IF God revealed everything to humanity all at once humanity would cease to exist! God, in His infinite wisdom and love spares us from that ever happening by REVEALING Himself slowly to us erring humans so as we begin to see more and more of Him, and His infinite wisdom He will give us answers to give to inquisitive minds like yours. Only by studying God's word can one expect to receive God's infinite wisdom little by little. Those who fight against studying God's word have no idea what I am talking about, but those, like Jane who just joined know very well what revelation from God means.

Has god revealed himself to you? And has this made you feel special? Do you secretly, or not so secretly, think it makes you more insightful and perceptive in some way? Maybe it means you can see things where other more intelligent and better educated people can't. Is that what you feel?
 
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