Evolution is Not Atheistic

[JonFromMinnesota]

Ok so what about all the skeletons of the giants discovered times over?

Sorry, but those are hoaxes and not real discoveries.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantskulls.asp
Internet photo hoax: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071214-giant-skeleton_2.html

 

[PsychoSarah]

Sorry, but those are hoaxes and not real discoveries.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantskulls.asp
Internet photo hoax: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071214-giant-skeleton_2.html

Of course, ones that big would be biologically impossible; I just gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed that she could have seen Homo erectus fossils, which can be quite tall compared to humans, though not ridiculous beasts like some frauds are.

 

[malvina]

Their offspring were tall enough to scare the messengers so were a lot bigger than that. Huge skeletons have been unearthed recently They were the ancient men of old referred to in the bible

King James Bible
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. It is obvious the pyramids etc were built by VERY tall men with superior intelligence to our own

 

[PsychoSarah]

Their offspring were tall enough to scare the messengers so were a lot bigger than that. Huge skeletons have been unearthed recently They were the ancient men of old referred to in the bible

King James Bible
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. It is obvious the pyramids etc were built by VERY tall men with superior intelligence to our own

I have to also note that the giants mentioned in the bible are an implied lie by scouts that were scared to combat foreigners, and that no actual giants are in the bible. The closest is Goliath, who, while very tall for the time, is within a human range for height.

 

[Meowzltov]

please rephrase, I don't understand that question.

The evidence in the earth support the conclusion of an ancient earth. Do you think God created an earth with this deceiving evidence in it to contradict the idea of a young earth?

 

[malvina]

Well you obviously believe that but I don't

There's far too much world-wide evidence of this ancient world of giants. I posted here somewhere a documentary of a life-time curator of a museum that holds sculls and bones of these people along with other ancient Egyptian artifacts. There is no perceived deceit about him at all - a very down to earth hard-working guy with no axe to grind as I saw it but I don't want to continually argue about it. You have your views and I have mine.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Well you obviously believe that but I don't

There's far too much world-wide evidence of this ancient world of giants. I posted here somewhere a documentary of a life-time curator of a museum that holds sculls and bones of these people along with other ancient Egyptian artifacts. There is no perceived deceit about him at all - a very down to earth hard-working guy with no axe to grind as I saw it but I don't want to continually argue about it. You have your views and I have mine.

Just because someone appears trustworthy and friendly does not make them incapable of deceit. Plus, he could fully believe in his findings, and simply be wrong about them. One source does not an argument make, but it would be nice if perhaps you kept a link to yours in your signature.

 

[MaxR1996]

Christians are really good at not reading the bible

God would have made it clear if Genesis was an allegory.

Its not.

 

[malvina]

Here is an excerpt of the documentary followed by his website which I am studying

https://planetearthvortex.wordpress.com/tag/klaus-dona/


We have to base our beliefs of what we perceive as being the truth

 

[PsychoSarah]

Here is an excerpt of the documentary followed by his website which I am studying

https://planetearthvortex.wordpress.com/tag/klaus-dona/


We have to base our beliefs of what we perceive as being the truth

My friend, this man's profession is art curator. He gave himself the title of "spiritual archeologist", and clearly pursued that career not for the purpose of making new findings, but explicitly to find stuff he thinks proves the validity of the bible. Which the presence of giants wouldn't actually do, considering that even in the bible they aren't real.

Btw, spiritual archeology is not just a name for someone that is an archeologist with Christian motives, it literally demands that people ignore physical evidence to find "deeper meanings". Basically, it's pseudoscience. http://portalsoftranscendence.com/journeys/your-peru-journey/spiritual-archeaology/

 

[malvina]

This is the documentary I will cancel other one

Of course there is a lot more evidence than this

 

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[lasthero]

Ok so what about all the skeletons of the giants discovered times over?

I've yet to come across one that's actually been analyzed which hasn't been shown to be a fake.

Besides, you're not just saying that giants existed, but that DINOSAURS KILLED THEM OFF, which is completely extra-Biblical and made up.

Do you want to hide from then like some scientists who fear they have been given wrong data that has given them their status?

Nice assertion. Any evidence?

 

[malvina]

'The Ancient Giants who ruled America' has some good info about archaeological finds of giants. I'm sure there are hoaxes, but I doubt all of them are. I highly doubt it. Just like there are UFO hoaxes but not all of them are. Some have been blatantly shown right on camera on mainstream news. I have heard of rumors that certain scientists have apparently said they are "demonic" because they are pretending to be something they are not, visitors from other places in space, when they are trans or hyper (don't remember which one, maybe it's both) dimensional beings. Thus they are deceiving have ill intent. This is what I have heard has been observed by certain scientists. I would like to very this. But apparently they defy the laws of physics like going through solid matter and traveling up 6000 mph without sonic booms and then being able to quickly turn in an arc. It is my understanding that it probably has something to do with the fallen angels of old here to deceive the nations in these last days.

I agree with this according to my study. I am sure that some evidence of giants are hoaxes but not all - the same as the ufo's and these would be demonic like other recent manifestation in the clouds etc Occultic practices are rife on this earth now.
I found your info interesting and will read up on academia - thanks!

 

[lasthero]

'The Ancient Giants who ruled America' has some good info about archaeological finds of giants. I'm sure there are hoaxes, but I doubt all of them are. I highly doubt it.

Based on what do you doubt this?

Just like there are UFO hoaxes but not all of them are. Some have been blatantly shown right on camera on mainstream news.

No one is denying that there have been flying objects which have been unidentified.

I have heard of rumors that certain scientists have apparently said they are "demonic" because they are pretending to be something they are not, visitors from other places in space, when they are trans or hyper (don't remember which one, maybe it's both) dimensional beings.[/quote[]

Who are these 'certain scientists'?

 

[lasthero]

I agree with this according to my study. I am sure that some evidence of giants are hoaxes but not all

How are you sure?

 

[malvina]

I've yet to come across one that's actually been analyzed which hasn't been shown to be a fake.

Besides, you're not just saying that giants existed, but that DINOSAURS KILLED THEM OFF, which is completely extra-Biblical and made up.



Nice assertion. Any evidence?

I didn't say the dinosaurs killed them off - GOD destroyed the first world WITH the dinosaurs.
Some of the giants' bones have been proved genuine if you study all the findings you will find this

 

[lasthero]

I didn't say the dinosaurs killed them off - GOD destroyed the first world WITH the dinosaurs.

Oh. Poor wording.

Some of the giants' bones have been proved genuine if you study all the findings you will find this

What findings? Links? Anything?

 

[malvina]

"1. And the angel of the presence spake to Moses according to the word of the Lord, saying: Write the complete history of the creation, how in six days the Lord God finished all His works and all that He created, and kept Sabbath on the seventh day and hallowed it for all ages, and appointed it as a sign for all His works. 2. For on the first day He created the heavens which are above and the earth and the waters and all the spirits which serve before him -the angels of the presence, and the angels of sanctification, and the angels [of the spirit of fire and the angels] of the spirit of the winds, and the angels of the spirit of the clouds, and of darkness, and of snow and of hail and of hoar frost, and the angels of the voices and of the thunder and of the lightning, and the angels of the spirits of cold and of heat, and of winter and of spring and of autumn and of summer and of all the spirits of his creatures which are in the heavens and on the earth, (He created) the abysses and the darkness, eventide <and night>, and the light, dawn and day, which He hath prepared in the knowledge of his heart. 3. And thereupon we saw His works, and praised Him, and lauded before Him on account of all His works; for seven great works did He create on the first day." Jubilees ch. 2

This I consider sacred authoritative Scripture and it explicitly confirms a literal 7 day creation, and also explicitly proves wrong the gap theory of a creation before this creation. On the first day God created the heavens and the earth.

I have, I would say, compelling evidence that Yehoshua accepted the Book of Jubilees as true Scripture, that he endorsed it as real history and prophecy about himself, which I have covered in this paper of mine: https://www.academia.edu/17164690/B..._Anointed_One_in_Gospel_according_to_John_7-8

The New Testament also says that the Law was given through angels which is nowhere explicitly found in in the traditional OT canons except the Ethiopian Orthodox one which contains Jubilees. The only other ancient writer that I can think of that said this was Josephus. So there was a Jewish tradition about this. But I'm betting it had its origin in the Levitical Priesthood, in which this book would have been in their care, teaching the People this, as is witnessed by the Dead Sea Scrolls, which certain scholars like Rachel Ellior, believe that the Qumran sect started with the genuine ousted Levite priests, the sons of Zadok, and that the original calendar of the Israelites was the solar calendar of Enoch.

Actually this is occultic study I just realised this - not something for a Christian forum