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Evolution is a part of a "strong delusion" in the end times?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by CodyFaith, Oct 20, 2016.

  1. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    You mean if you were a new Christian? or if you were a Christian who knew his doctrine?
     
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  2. TagliatelliMonster

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    There is nothing "emotional" about the fact that sience provides knowledge which is used to solve and tackle every single one of the problems that you mentioned.

    Prayer didn't turn infant mortality into an all-time low. Prayer didn't tripple life expectancy.

    Science did.
     
  3. Nithavela

    Nithavela Touch Fluffy Tail

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    I find it terrific that John is such an expert of philosophy "at only 24 years" that he can beat anyone at any discussion with 100% certainty.

    Hang on to that, John. Most people lose this kind of ability with age and experience.
     
  4. Loudmouth

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    I can't think of a better recruiting tool for atheism than your posts.
     
  5. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Why evolution and not heliocentrism or special relativity or germ theory? Perhaps heliocentrism is the strong delusion and in order to be part of the sheep we need to believe in a flat earth--because evidence doesn't matter (it's a strong delusion after all) so only the righteous sheep who deny the evidence of a round earth and insist on the literalistic biblical view of a flat earth will be saved in the end times.

    Does that sound silly? It's because it is.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  6. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Or maybe even a super-duper-uber-scientist extraordinaire. Part Einstein and part grizzly bear, he'll have a herd of mega-unicorns and terror-dactyls. And he'll have a space fortress on the moon from which he'll bench press telescopes as he hypothesizes really, really, really hard.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  7. Mobezom

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    [​IMG]

    Biology < Physics in terms of peopleSaved - peopleKilled.

    I wonder where religion would fit in? Certainly, if there is no afterlife, the Crusades and Inquisition alone would place religion far below Physics.
     
  8. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Science: Easy but ineffective solutions to societal/social problems.

    Religion: Difficult but effective solutions to societal/social problems.
     
  9. Mobezom

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    Isn't that nice. It's a shame it's not true.

    Science is difficult! Religion is easy - just do whatever someone tells you to, believe whatever someone tells you to believe. Science requires thought - religion works best without it. Science builds on itself - religion is static. Science can fix itself. Religion cannot.

    Also, it's clear that you've never done or seen or viewed or learned about any science. Ever hear about protein folding? Pshaw, "easy," my foot.
     
  10. mzungu

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    You obviously have never suffered a tooth ache.
     
  11. dickyh995

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    I would argue that many of the great social strides in the 20th-21st Centuries are a result of scientific understanding. Science tells us that race is biologically meaningless, science tells us that there is homosexuality in nature. Social progress is certainly informed by scientific discovery which to me is clearly meaningful use. Can you enlighten me as to what positive impact religion or the bible have had on society since the enlightment? I can't think of anything in my lifetime.
     
  12. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    You mean like the Salvation Army, Alcoholics Victorious, Narcotics Victorious, homeless shelters, soup kitchens, hospitals, famine relief and other operations done in the name of Jesus Christ?
     
  13. Speedwell

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    Don't buy it. Much of that kind of thing is done by "Christians in name only."
     
  14. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Except for the Crusades and other Christian raiding operations ... right? ;)
     
  15. Speedwell

    Speedwell Well-Known Member

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    Hard to tell. Your "real" Christianity hadn't been invented yet.
     
  16. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    Solid aurum, folks.
     
  17. Mobezom

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    That's not enough. You need to show that being a Christian results in more altruism. Perhaps altruistic people are more likely to convert to Christianity, for instance.

    Besides, I could list seven atheist/agnostic/nonreligious altruistic operations too.
     
  18. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    It's good enough for me.

    The accusation that they are 'Christian in name only' doesn't cut it.
     
  19. Speedwell

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    Even your first example "cuts it." Booth was a Methodist.
     
  20. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    So?

    God can (and has) used the unsaved to do His will.
     
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