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The Falsifiability Criterion

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Why is that important to you? Are you trying to encourage Christians who accept evolution to reject it?
No, I'm trying to show people who question the theory of evolution that there are scientists who also question it. If you want to believe in evolution as fact go right ahead.
 
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No, I'm trying to show people who question the theory of evolution that there are scientists who also question it. If you want to believe in evolution as fact go right ahead.
Well, I don't believe that the theory of evolution is a fact. so no problem.
 
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At the same time, any suggestion that some quantity or quality of newly discovered evidence will function to falsify the Theory of Evolution should be carefully examined and considered. However, anyone defending the Theory of Evolution must be mindful to identify and expose where intellectual dishonesty exists in the objections they encounter. In all previous circumstances where such invalid objections have been made by duplicitous individuals, the proposed disconfirming evidence turned-out to be either manipulated or misrepresented.

I agree with all you're saying. What kind of evidence could falsify evolution? I did a quick search and got:

Fossil Evidence​

  • Anomalous Fossils: Discovery of a vertebrate fossil, such as a rabbit, in Precambrian rocks would contradict the established timeline of evolution.
  • Incorrect Fossil Order: If fossils were found in a sequence that contradicts the expected evolutionary lineage, it would challenge the theory.

Genetic Evidence​

  • Lack of Genetic Variation: If most species showed no genetic variation, it would undermine the basis for evolution, which relies on variation for natural selection.
  • Adaptations Benefiting Other Species: Finding adaptations in one species that only benefit another species, without any advantage to the first, would contradict evolutionary principles.

Observational Evidence​

  • Absence of Evolutionary Change: If populations of organisms remained unchanged over extensive periods, despite environmental pressures, it would challenge the concept of evolution.
  • Adaptations That Cannot Evolve Gradually: Evidence showing that certain complex traits could not have evolved through small, incremental changes would question the validity of natural selection.

Do these look like possible falsifiers? Some of these seem highly unlikely given the evidence we have. For instance, it seems unlikely there would ever be a large number of species with no genetic variation, right? Why would that be a live possibility? I don't know so I'm open to suggestions.
 
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Meanwhile, the falsifiable Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection continues to survive all tests designed to try and disprove it.

That's because scientists can simply change the criteria as necessary.

Be it moving the decimal point to accommodate deep time, to gerrymandering the geologic column to erase evidence against it.

Case in point: rabbits in the Precambrian.

According to Wikipedia:

Rabbits are mammals. From the perspective of the philosophy of science, it is doubtful whether the genuine discovery of mammalian fossils in Precambrian rocks would overthrow the theory of evolution instantly, though if authentic, such a discovery would indicate serious errors in modern understanding about the evolutionary process.

SOURCE

Simply move the dates of the Precambrian up or down to include them and voila, problem solved.

Deep time is another good example.

Simply move the decimal place to the right as needed to make things look older and older.

From AI Overview:

The concept of deep time provided the necessary timescale for Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection, allowing for the gradual accumulation of evolutionary changes over millions of years.
 
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That's because scientists can simply change the criteria as necessary.

Be it moving the decimal point to accommodate deep time, to gerrymandering the geologic column to erase evidence against it.

Case in point: rabbits in the Precambrian.

According to Wikipedia:

Rabbits are mammals. From the perspective of the philosophy of science, it is doubtful whether the genuine discovery of mammalian fossils in Precambrian rocks would overthrow the theory of evolution instantly, though if authentic, such a discovery would indicate serious errors in modern understanding about the evolutionary process.

SOURCE

Simply move the dates of the Precambrian up or down to include them and voila, problem solved.

Deep time is another good example.

Simply move the decimal place to the right as needed to make things look older and older.

From AI Overview:

The concept of deep time provided the necessary timescale for Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection, allowing for the gradual accumulation of evolutionary changes over millions of years.

But is distinctly untrue, though not without serious numbers. A single rabbit would be an oddity worth investigating, hundreds of rabbits would be a problem for the theory of evolution. It's never just a single thing, you need lots of things.

And deep time is only a problem for one such as yourself, AV.
 
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