evolution in church

[Skaloop]

You are kidding. I thought you know something about Christianity.

Christians are accumulating Heavenly credit on the earth (rich or poor according to earth's standard). The more (unburnable) credits one earned, the better off one will be in the eternity. One does not need any such credit to go to Heaven, but he will be a poor soul in the Heaven.

So there are rich and poor people in heaven (not money rich, but unburnable credit rich)? What exactly does having more credits get you? Wouldn't a disparity in the credits each soul has lead to some sort of class system o f haves and have-nots?

 

[juvenissun]

So there are rich and poor people in heaven (not money rich, but unburnable credit rich)? What exactly does having more credits get you? Wouldn't a disparity in the credits each soul has lead to some sort of class system o f haves and have-nots?

I think that is a right idea.

 

[Skaloop]

I think that is a right idea.

What does having more credits in heaven get you once you're there? Do you get a bigger mansion, or more alone time hanging with Jesus, or what?

 

[Split Rock]

You are kidding. I thought you know something about Christianity.

Christians are accumulating Heavenly credit on the earth (rich or poor according to earth's standard). The more (unburnable) credits one earned, the better off one will be in the eternity. One does not need any such credit to go to Heaven, but he will be a poor soul in the Heaven.

I was being rather sarcastic. However, your response is a bit perplexing... what is a "poor soul" in heaven and what are the disadvantages??

 

[sfs]

I was being rather sarcastic. However, your response is a bit perplexing... what is a "poor soul" in heaven and what are the disadvantages??

Fewer virgins? No, wait, I think I've got the wrong heaven.

 

[CabVet]

Fewer virgins? No, wait, I think I've got the wrong heaven.

Haha! LOL! That does take me back to medieval times though, when one of the ways to get into heaven was to "buy" your spot. And of course, the more you gave to the church, the more you would get in return in heaven.

 

[Split Rock]

Haha! LOL! That does take me back to medieval times though, when one of the ways to get into heaven was to "buy" your spot. And of course, the more you gave to the church, the more you would get in return in heaven.

Ah yes... the sale of "indulgences."

 

[juvenissun]

What does having more credits in heaven get you once you're there? Do you get a bigger mansion, or more alone time hanging with Jesus, or what?

Something better than good. You can imagine it as well as I can.

 

[juvenissun]

I was being rather sarcastic. However, your response is a bit perplexing... what is a "poor soul" in heaven and what are the disadvantages??

Not as happy as other more happy souls.

 

[CabVet]

Something better than good. You can imagine it as well as I can.

Social hierarchy in heaven, that one is news to me. And here I was, naively thinking that it would be all "good" if you accepted Christ and were a devout Christian, but of course, it will be even "better" if you do this and that. I will save it for later reference.

 

[Skaloop]

Something better than good. You can imagine it as well as I can.

What is that something? And what do people with very few credits get?

 

[juvenissun]

Social hierarchy in heaven, that one is news to me. And here I was, naively thinking that it would be all "good" if you accepted Christ and were a devout Christian, but of course, it will be even "better" if you do this and that. I will save it for later reference.

I think that is true.
Otherwise, why should I work harder (and wiser: not promoting evolution) once I am saved?

 

[juvenissun]

What is that something? And what do people with very few credits get?

May be, for example, I will have more "power".

 

[CabVet]

What is that something? And what do people with very few credits get?

The person who took the photo below had "bad credit"

 

[CabVet]

I think that is true.
Otherwise, why should I work harder (and wiser: not promoting evolution) once I am saved?

This is getting ugly really quickly. When you really love someone, you shouldn't expect a reward for "good behavior".

 

[Skaloop]

May be, for example, I will have more "power".

I see, so you do good acts (to gain heavenly credit) out of greed and a lust for power. Good to know.

Exactly what would having more "power" in heaven entail, anyway? Power to do what? And do you mean power as in ability or persuasive influence?

 

[Skaloop]

I think that is true.
Otherwise, why should I work harder (and wiser: not promoting evolution) once I am saved?

I've been told around here many times that once you are saved doing good comes from the light of Jesus within you, not some desire for heavenly credit. That you work harder because the desire to do good wells up in you, not for personal gain.

 

[Split Rock]

Not as happy as other more happy souls.

May be, for example, I will have more "power".

Wow.. you have some weird ideas about heaven.

 

[juvenissun]

This is getting ugly really quickly. When you really love someone, you shouldn't expect a reward for "good behavior".

You shouldn't. But you could. That could be one of the motivation.
It is not ugly at all. It is beautiful.

 

[juvenissun]

I see, so you do good acts (to gain heavenly credit) out of greed and a lust for power. Good to know.

Exactly what would having more "power" in heaven entail, anyway? Power to do what? And do you mean power as in ability or persuasive influence?

An example is the difference between an arch-angel and normal angels. The more power, the more responsibility. In a government, you NEED positions of different levels.