Evolution False? Absolute proof inside.

[AV1611VET]

Are you just quoting random Bible verses now?

No.

I'm pointing out that, if God sorted the fossils after the Flood, He did it decently and in order.

I have no idea what the fossil record looks like on paper; and it looks like you guys are saying it is in some kind of order from simple to complex life forms; as opposed to just helter-skelter all-over-the-place random mixed-up layering.

So whatever it is you guys are seeing underground, I have no problem agreeing with.

Your interpretation of what you're seeing though, is another matter.

 

[Armoured]

Scientists use carbon dating to find out if somethings billions of years old.
and that proves the flood, because how could seashells get on top of the mountain and so called turn in to fossils? which only takes around 4000 or so years to do so, in all truth, but scientists say it takes much longer, but it does not, so back to the question, how could sea shells get 25,000 feet above sea level?

Well some people think that the clams flew up there.

 

[biggles53]

Well some people think that the clams flew up there.

Hey, it works for AV.......when in difficulty, just conjure up some magic and ....poof.....problem solved....!

 

[TasManOfGod]

I always smile at the wriggle tactics to the Q "What is the result of carbon dating oil and coal?"

 

[florida2]

1 Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

Why are you taking a verse about behaviour of people in churches out of context?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why are you taking a verse about behaviour of people in churches out of context?

That verse applies to everyday living ... not just in the church.

We don't praise the LORD and smile at people in church on Sunday, then on Monday smoke, drink, and cuss.

And for the record, we are the church, not the building.

The building is where the church meets.

 

[florida2]

That verse applies to everyday living ... not just in the church.

We don't praise the LORD and smile at people in church on Sunday, then on Monday smoke, drink, and cuss.

And for the record, we are the church, not the building.

The building is where the church meets.

I still don't see why that means you can suddenly use it in a discussion about fossils

 

[AV1611VET]

I still don't see why that means you can suddenly use it in a discussion about fossils

I'm not surprised.

 

[Aureus]

I still don't see why that means you can suddenly use it in a discussion about fossils

He wants to say that the Bible says that after the Flood God was feeling a bit OCD and decided to arrange all the fossils on Earth in order of least complex to most complex based using the depth or age of the rocks as his medium for sorting them in that fashion. Thereby making the whole theory of Evolution is in fact just a silly human mistake thinking there must be some natural explanation for what we observe instead of it just being God wanting things in some kind order.

Though I feel like the same basic tenet "God wants things done in order" could be used to suggest that Evolution, being the way it would be accomplished naturally, was the instrument by which God crafted the world and its animals until the evolutionary process created a species capable of being able to understand his message.

Of course, 'interpretation' so often cuts in a dozen different directions.

 

[Split Rock]

Scientists use carbon dating to find out if somethings billions of years old.

This is False. Scientists do not use carbon dating to find out if something is billions of years old, since C-14's half-life is way too short for that.

and that proves the flood, because how could seashells get on top of the mountain and so called turn in to fossils? which only takes around 4000 or so years to do so, in all truth, but scientists say it takes much longer, but it does not, so back to the question, how could sea shells get 25,000 feet above sea level?

The seashells (and other fossils) are inside the rocks, not on top of them. The way they got there is do to mountain building. The rock used to be on the bottom of the ocean.

Your source is very unknowledgeable.

 

[beck12]

This is False. Scientists do not use carbon dating to find out if something is billions of years old, since C-14's half-life is way too short for that.



The seashells (and other fossils) are inside the rocks, not on top of them. The way they got there is do to mountain building. The rock used to be on the bottom of the ocean.

Your source is very unknowledgeable.

You do not understand, if the mountain rose, the sea shells would have broke, or fel apart even if they were fossils, which there 100% intact, theres another way it would have became a fossil, because if the water covered way higher then mount everest, so there would be alot of preasure from the water, sense the flood covered the whole world, so thats how they became fossils.

 

[pgp_protector]

Burce Malone on Its supernatural by SidRoth, absolute proof evolution is false. Bruce Malone | Sid Roth - It's Supernatural

My Reply.

If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.

 

[pgp_protector]

No he does not, not at all, he became a christian before a scientist, he just wants to provide proof to the unsaved.

Well he's doing a lousy job.

 

[AV1611VET]

My Reply.

If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

 

[pgp_protector]

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

When people Lie about one thing, people listening tend to assume they're lying about others.
So my Quote still stands.

But I'd guess you don't care about how many people lying drives away from God, as long as you get to keep pointing out that 0.0000001% might turn.

 

[Aureus]

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Yes let me see... on the one hand I have St. Augustine. Who was well aware of the verse you quote.

On the other I have AV1611VET.

Yep, I'm siding with St. Augustine.

When people Lie about one thing, people listening tend to assume they're lying about others.
So my Quote still stands.

But I'd guess you don't care about how many people lying drives away from God, as long as you get to keep pointing out that 0.0000001% might turn.

Well Said.

 

[AV1611VET]

When people Lie about one thing, people listening tend to assume they're lying about others.
So my Quote still stands.

But I'd guess you don't care about how many people lying drives away from God, as long as you get to keep pointing out that 0.0000001% might turn.

Can you name one high-profile Christian today who would not be called a "liar" by someone here?

Even Jesus was considered a "deceiver" by His contemporaries.

 

[pgp_protector]

Can you name one high-profile Christian today who would not be called a "liar" by someone here?

Doesn't refute my point AV, is that why you're changing tactics ?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yep, I'm siding with St. Augustine.

Including here?

Likewise, he affirmed that the Virgin Mary "conceived as virgin, gave birth as virgin and stayed virgin forever".

SOURCE

 

[AV1611VET]

Doesn't refute my point AV,

What point? that we're all liars but you?