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[trunks2k]

Scientists use carbon dating to find out if somethings billions of years old.

No they don't. I don't know all that much of the specifics of carbon dating, but I do know that the limit is in the 10s of thousands of years old. According to wikipedia, Carbon dating has a useful limit of roughly 60,000 years.

If your video states that carbon dating is used to date things to billions of years old, then I have no reason to listen to anything else the video says as it has demonstrated its ignorance.

 

[beck12]

No they don't. Carbon dating has a useful limit of roughly 60,000 years.

If your video states that carbon dating is used to date things to billions of years old, then I have no reason to listen to anything else the video says as it has demonstrated its ignorance.

They found dinasour bones with carbon in it, so does that not mean, they were less the 60k years old?

 

[lasthero]

They found dinasour bones with carbon in it, so does that not mean, they were less the 60k years old?

Who is 'they'? When did this happen? Give me an article to check, a paper, something.

 

[lasthero]

He has written books, he apparently has made around 15 inventions that made millions.

That's neat. If true. Which I doubt.

Doesn't make him a scientist.

 

[Dizredux]

They found dinasour bones with carbon in it, so does that not mean, they were less the 60k years old?

Beck, you might want to look at this. It is a very good tutorial of radiometric dating from a christian prospective.
Radiometric Dating

Take care,

Dizrediux

 

[AV1611VET]

Doesn't make him a scientist.

If a person isn't a scientist™, should he be asking for evidence or demanding a Christian adhere to the scientific method to support his beliefs?

In your opinion?

 

[lasthero]

If a person isn't a scientist™, should he be asking for evidence or demanding a Christian adhere to the scientific method to support his beliefs?

In your opinion?

I don't care. Bug off.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't care. Bug off.

Sure:

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[Simmeh]

He has written books, he apparently has made around 15 inventions that made millions.

And that doesn't have anything to do with his understanding of geology, cosmology, or palaeontology - he may have some understanding of biology depending on what he focused on in school. At most it makes him a published author and a successful engineer.

This is not a bad thing - I too hold a degree in chemical engineering, and there's a great many things within that discipline that you can learn and do. But unless things like thermodynamics, heat/mass transfer, chemical equilibria, process dynamics, applied statistics, or control theory come up, I don't flaunt that fact, and I certainly don't use my degree as support for arguments outside of its field (and rarely within it as well, as I'm employed as a manager and not a designer or researcher).

 

[Davian]

Watch the whole video. xD

Not based on what I saw so far.

 

[Queller]

Scientists use carbon dating to find out if somethings billions of years old.

No, scientists don't use carbon dating to find out if something is billions of years old. Carbon dating is only accurate to about 60,000 years, give or take. Other types of radioisotope dating, such as Uranium-lead or Potassium-argon dating, are used to determine older ages.

and that proves the flood, because how could seashells get on top of the mountain and so called turn in to fossils? which only takes around 4000 or so years to do so, in all truth, but scientists say it takes much longer, but it does not, so back to the question, how could sea shells get 25,000 feet above sea level?

They didn't turn into fossils on top of the mountain. They turn into fossils when they were buried, then through geologic uplift the fossils are raised as the mountain grows, and finally erosion wears away the covering exposing the fossil.

 

[Aureus]

This is the best comedy bit that the Onion has produced...

Wait. Its supposed to be serious?



Oh my, it even includes claims of supernatural healing from watching the show.

Honestly, the usefulness of this video is as a basic primer on how to research the claims of others. Pause it after every claim, google that claim, and then just shake your head at the assertions being made.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Scientists use carbon dating to find out if somethings billions of years old.
and that proves the flood, because how could seashells get on top of the mountain and so called turn in to fossils? which only takes around 4000 or so years to do so, in all truth, but scientists say it takes much longer, but it does not, so back to the question, how could sea shells get 25,000 feet above sea level?

Lots of factual errors there. Carbon dating is only valid to about 40,000 years back.

However quickly you think fossilization can occur . . . surely you realize that once the organic material has been replaced by mineral material, the original organic carbon is gone? You can't carbon date such a fossil at all.

And however quickly you think fossilization can occur, surely that says nothing about how long the fossil sat there after fossilization occurred.

As for sea shells getting 25,000 feet above sea level, that's easy . . . merely lay down the sea shells in an ocean floor, then uplift the ocean floor into a mountain. That process, of course, takes millions of years, but we have the millions of years.

Plate tectonics. The cause of the rising of the Himalayas. Go look at a relief globe, see how india, relentlessly moving northward, crashes into the asian land mass and causes all those wrinkles (we call them mountains) in the earth.

 

[PsychoSarah]

This is the sort of thing that makes me face palm myself to brain damage.

 

[Loudmouth]

They found dinasour bones with carbon in it, so does that not mean, they were less the 60k years old?

No, it means that millions of years old dinosaur bones can soak up carbon from the surrounding environment. That, and the relatively fast decay of 14C, puts an upper limit on the effective range of carbon dating.

 

[PsychoSarah]

No, it means that millions of years old dinosaur bones can soak up carbon from the surrounding environment. That, and the relatively fast decay of 14C, puts an upper limit on the effective range of carbon dating.

To an extent of course, thankfully that sort of environment contamination doesn't ruin the dating process.

 

[Loudmouth]

As for sea shells getting 25,000 feet above sea level, that's easy . . . merely lay down the sea shells in an ocean floor, then uplift the ocean floor into a mountain. That process, of course, takes millions of years, but we have the millions of years.

The Himilayas are probably the best example of this,, as you also mention. The limestone layers containing fossils are due to sea floor material being pushed up the Asian plate as the Indian plate collides with it. You can see some of the fault lines in this picture.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jhiaT6dZg...8R6w/s1600/Everest+Gokyo+Ri+Prayer+Flags1.jpg

The interesting part, at least to me, is that the newest rock in the Himilayas is found at the base of the Himilayas. As the Indian plate continues it's northward journey, it is forcing the leading edge of that plate into the mantle where it melts. This is much lighter continental crust, so as it melts it shoots straight up in the much denser mantle basalts. This causes the entire plate to uplift, and new rock cools and forms at the bottom of the Himilayas. It is like a jack that is fueled by melted continental crust.

 

[Loudmouth]

To an extent of course, thankfully that sort of environment contamination doesn't ruin the dating process.

It is a small amount that only limits the sensitivity at the top of the age range.

 

[biggles53]

Beck....on the seashells...?

You do realise that many of those mountains are still rising, don't you...? That we can actually measure how much they have increased each year...? Is it so hard, then, to understand that they would have been much lower in the past...? You are aware, aren't you, that we have mountain ranges today, that are beneath the sea...? Would it surprise you to find that those mountains have seashells on them...? Given what we observe and measure about other mountains, is it at all conceivable to you that one day these submerged mountains could also rise above sea level...?

Oh boy.......

 

[bhsmte]

Just when you think you have seen it all................