Evolution and the myth of "scientific consensus"

[justlookinla]

I don't trust her. She quote mines.
Have you ever read Dawkins, or only Once's alleged quote?

Didn't you say you agreed with the quote?

 

[justlookinla]

Science does not prove anything, but the evidence from you that it is only an illusion mounts with every post you make.

Science isn't interested in the truth...right?

 

[HitchSlap]

Didn't you say you agreed with the quote?

I don't know. Conversations with her are like the Twilight Zone. Did you have a question?

 

[HitchSlap]

Science isn't interested in the truth...right?

Only illusions and absence of evidence as evidence. Cthulhu would be proud.

 

[Smidlee]

Do you see a duck in this cloud? If you say yes, does that mean it is a real duck?

Do you still not understand that "appearance" does not mean "really is"?

It's very easy to prove that this is not a real duck. You do realize your cloud example would apply more with the assumptions made by looking at a fossil than a living system which can be studied in details in real time.
You have only strengthen the case that illusions are something that can be proven to be not real just like a magician can reveal his trick.

 

[justlookinla]

I don't know. Conversations with her are like the Twilight Zone. Did you have a question?

You don't know? Why not go back and review the thread and you may determine what you know.....and the issue/question.

 

[justlookinla]

Only illusions and absence of evidence as evidence. Cthulhu would be proud.

Science isn't interested in the truth?

 

[Davian]

By default people doesn't assume the universe and things we witness in the universe is an illusion unless proven otherwise.

Who made you spokesperson for all people?

Most illusions are even created by man which means they are designed.

You have obviously never watched a nature show about animal camouflage and mimicry.

All illusion can be shown to be just that an illusion. Ex: A magician can easily prove his trick was an illusion by revealing how he did it.

Not all illusions are so easily revealed; the surface on which your computer rests is mostly empty space - how would you demonstrate that?

If you want to believe the universe or anything in the universe is an illusion it's impossible to prove to you otherwise.

That is not my belief.

This is hyperskepticism.

You can call it a banana split for all I care.

 

[Davian]

Science isn't interested in the truth...right?

In these forums, "truth" would appear to be synonymous with "religious opinion".

I would say that science is a methodology for describing reality.

 

[Smidlee]

Who made you spokesperson for all people?

This is accepted by default in order to do science. It's the belief we are able to know something about the universe outside our minds.

You have obviously never watched a nature show about animal camouflage and mimicry.

"Most" doesn't mean "all".

Not all illusions are so easily revealed; the surface on which your computer rests is mostly empty space - how would you demonstrate that?

This is only a problem to a materialist. Even the scripture hints the universe is created by that which can't be seen.

That is not my belief.

You can call it a banana split for all I care.

Then you seem to agree not to assume something to be an illusion unless proven otherwise.

 

[justlookinla]

In these forums, "truth" would appear to be synonymous with "religious opinion".

I would say that science is a methodology for describing reality.

I would say that's not an answer to the question about science being disinterested in the truth.

 

[HitchSlap]

You don't know? Why not go back and review the thread and you may determine what you know.....and the issue/question.

Nah. Movin' on.

How is design anything other than illusion, again?

 

[justlookinla]

Nah. Movin' on.

How is design anything other than illusion, again?

Where is the evidence that design in the human body is an illusion again?

 

[Smidlee]

Where is the evidence that design in the human body is an illusion again?

How do they know that belief that design is an illusion is not an illusion created by their mind?

 

[HitchSlap]

Where is the evidence that design in the human body is an illusion again?

Where a the evidence the body is designed?

 

[justlookinla]

How do they know that belief that design is an illusion is not an illusion created by their mind?

I dunno. They'd have to explain that.

 

[justlookinla]

Where a the evidence the body is designed?

Where is the evidence that the design in the body is an illusion?

 

[Smidlee]

I dunno. They'd have to explain that.

They need to give us evidence that they belief that design in nature is an illusion is not an illusion.

 

[justlookinla]

They need to give us evidence that they belief that design in nature is an illusion is not an illusion.

That's the issue. They make claims without evidence.

 

[Davian]

I would say that's not an answer to the question about science being disinterested in the truth.

I would say that science is not interested in your religious opinion.