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Evolution and the myth of "scientific consensus"

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What guesses and suppositions?

Your guesses and suppositions of how bacterial flagellum and tactile sensory units were formed.

Already shown to be produced by natural processes.

How are designed elements products of naturalistic processes?
 
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Your guesses and suppositions of how bacterial flagellum and tactile sensory units were formed.

And what are they?

How are designed elements products of naturalistic processes?

If natural processes can produce the elements of design, then they aren't elements of designer. That's what you can't seem to understand.

River systems are complex, functional, and have purpose. They have all of the supposed elements of design, yet they are the product of natural processes. Your claims have been falsified.
 
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I understand your need to project. You have position "envy," as I'm able to adjust my beliefs to the evidence, and you're stuck with the bible. This should be simple enough for you to understand; I accept the theories that best explain what we're able to observe.

I, make three basic assumptions:
1. Realty exists.
2. We can learn something about reality.
3. Models with predictive capabilities work better than those without.
Position envy? That really did make me laugh. You seem to be forgetting that your belief is based on very general evidence and rhetoric. You accept stories about theories that try to explain what is observed.
 
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Position envy? That really did make me laugh. You seem to be forgetting that your belief is based on very general evidence and rhetoric. You accept stories about theories that try to explain what is observed.
There you go projecting again.
 
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So you are saying that ID is guesses and suppositions?
You do realize that my four year old grandson does this same thing all the time. It clearly indicates that you are at a loss and must revert to the equivalent, "my dog is better than yours", "no my dog is better than yours".
 
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You do realize that my four year old grandson does this same thing all the time. It clearly indicates that you are at a loss and must revert to the equivalent, "my dog is better than yours", "no my dog is better than yours".

If all we have left are guesses and suppositions, then wouldn't that make ID a guess and/or supposition?
 
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Then what exactly is your problem with the theory of evolution?
I have no problem with evolution as biological defined. It becomes a problem things are claimed about it that are not in evidence. I have a problem more with materialists/atheists using science and evolution as a explanation of all life forms and systems therein when there is no physical evidence to show that and what evidence there is supports these life forms and systems appear to be designed with a purpose.
 
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I have no problem with evolution as biological defined. It becomes a problem things are claimed about it that are not in evidence.

Yet you have no problem with the claim that bacterial flagella are designed when you have zero evidence to back it.
 
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Yet you have no problem with the claim that bacterial flagella are designed when you have zero evidence to back it.
The evidence is that it appears designed with a purpose. That is the evidence, when are you all going to get that?
 
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The evidence that shows that life forms and systems appear to be designed for a purpose.
To more accurately reflect what you're trying to say here; "I believe what I see in life forms and systems appears to be designed for a purpose, and I will consider what I see as evidence because I believe in a god I think is intelligent."
 
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