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Evidence for Design

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by elephunky, Sep 11, 2013.

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  1. gradyll

    gradyll logical debater- for better or for worse

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    your first premise fails.

    mount everest is not more than a pyramid

    mt everest can be made by natural processes, the pyramid cannot



    Yet I could quote evolutionists that teach the body has something in common with a machine, not exactly, but something in common.
     
  2. pgp_protector

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    And so can a Human.
     
  3. gradyll

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    I can go into technical details about how it's impossible for DNA of a human to evolve, but lets hear it from you.

    How can it?

    evolve?
     
  4. lasthero

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    I would love to see you do this. Really.
     
  5. gradyll

    gradyll logical debater- for better or for worse

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    let me know if I lose you,

    lets start with endothermic reactions, do you know what they are?

    nucleotides don't bond well with elements to make DNA, but they do bond well with the toxic elements produced in the miller urey experiment. So no primordial soup will suffice because the nucleotides will bond to the toxins and be wiped out.
     
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  6. lasthero

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    That has nothing to do with DNA of a human evolving.
     
  7. gradyll

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    ok, then explain how in your model the DNA evolved if not in a pimordial soup.
     
  8. lasthero

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    Who said DNA evolved in a primordial soup? And even if they did, how does that connect to human DNA evolving now?
     
  9. gradyll

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    another reason why DNA would not evolve in a primordial or other type of wet environment (soup)...

    the miller urey experiment produced 50/50 left and right handed amino acids.

    yet
    proteins are made of 100% left handed amino acids

    on another note:

    DNA are made of 100% right handed nucleotides,

    so if DNA were to evolve in a soup, it would have to have 100% right handed nucleotides to evolve.

    Experiment would fail in a random setting, structures of nucleotides with 1:100 left handed nucleotides would destroy the structure.

    learn more about the above see documentation:


    the natural sciences know nothing of evolution by A.E. Wilder smith
     
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  10. gradyll

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    another reason why DNA will not evolve in a primordial soup:


    law of mass action:

    in a watery environment a water molecule will break up a protein into amino acids, and will break up a DNA into respective nucleotides.

    not the other way around.
     
  11. lasthero

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    This is all kind of a moot point. Who said DNA evolved in a primordial soup?
     
  12. gradyll

    gradyll logical debater- for better or for worse

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    this coming from someone who rarely ever states what He believes....

    typical.

    but this theory is the most popular taught in public school right now,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primordial_soup

    Glencoe, Prentic Hall, Holt, and other articles used in public school textbooks state this concept:

    The Miller experiment and others demonstrate that life could have formed in the "primordial soup"

    2006 Evolution exposed, your evolution answer book for hte classroom, roger patterson, AIG
     
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  13. MrJDSmith

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    isn't their a notice about addressing the point, and not the poster?

    Sent from my tablet using CF
     
  14. lasthero

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    I state what I believe all the time. I'll state some things I believe, right now, if it makes you happy.

    I believe Johnny Cash was far superior to Elvis.

    I believe Aliens is the greatest movie ever made.

    I believe Chick Fil A is overrated and overpriced, except for their milkshakes and lemonade.
     
  15. gradyll

    gradyll logical debater- for better or for worse

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    I edited my previous post please respond.
     
  16. gradyll

    gradyll logical debater- for better or for worse

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    last hero is known for criticising but not coming out open with his own views, which is as best dishonest.
     
  17. StormanNorman

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    So what? The key words there, Grady, are "could have." That, again, is science.
     
  18. gradyll

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    Biology: teachers addition by Holt, rinehart, and winston, austin, texan 2006

    this book a public textbook teaches "water has properties that support life"

    article 3:2, and 5:4
     
  19. MrJDSmith

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    no it is not dishonist if the critisims are valid.
    one is not required to post an opinion.

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  20. gradyll

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    but they could not have, it's impossible as I have posted.


    unless random chemistry can create 100% right handed nucleotides?
     
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