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Willtor

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Will, can you say that again please? I'm not following.

Yeah. Basically, I'm suggesting that the membership list not be a list of members at all, but a list of representatives who vote on things. That way, the representatives are seen as responsible to the regulars in the forum who self-identify as "Moderate Christians" and there's no sense of elitism regarding who is on the list vs. who isn't.
 
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Let's just go with self-identification of "Moderate Christian". I don't want to have a creed or confessional statement that people have to agree to. I'd rather get on with the fellowship and discussion.

For myself, I'm not suggesting that anybody would have to agree to anything to self-identify as a "Moderate Christian." But something that gives somebody else a general sense (even if it isn't perfect for everybody; even if it isn't perfect for me) seems like a good way for people to find a starting point for discussion, and perhaps may encourage others to consider self-identifying as Moderate.
 
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Here's a thought!

Why don't we come up with some of the most general boundaries of what we consider as defining "Moderate Christianity" and once we have a big list, we can all vote for or against each of them and publish the results of the vote, saying something like:

8% of self-identifying Moderates polled indicated support for Nestorianism.

We say "self-identifying Moderates" because that's what the forum is about, and we say "polled" to make it clear that this subject to the same biases as any unscientific poll.

Would that be a reasonable compromise for all concerned?
 
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I'm just not sure it's needed, though.

If we make the site-wide rules paramount, and only add a couple of things:

1. Those who self-identify as a moderate Christian are members of this forum.

2. Discussion is welcomed, debate is not. Discussion allows for different points of view to be brought to the table without condemnation and judgement. Debate, by its nature of having a winner and a loser, is not fitting with the spirit of this forum.

3. Only members who have added their names to the membership list may vote in mod and policy elections.


I think that should be it, personally.
 
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I'm just not sure it's needed, though.

If we make the site-wide rules paramount, and only add a couple of things:

1. Those who self-identify as a moderate Christian are members of this forum.

2. Discussion is welcomed, debate is not. Discussion allows for different points of view to be brought to the table without condemnation and judgement. Debate, by its nature of having a winner and a loser, is not fitting with the spirit of this forum.

3. Only members who have added their names to the membership list may vote in mod and policy elections.


I think that should be it, personally.
I like that...:thumbsup: Keeps it simple!
 
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Here's a thought!

Why don't we come up with some of the most general boundaries of what we consider as defining "Moderate Christianity" and once we have a big list, we can all vote for or against each of them and publish the results of the vote, saying something like:

8% of self-identifying Moderates polled indicated support for Nestorianism.

We say "self-identifying Moderates" because that's what the forum is about, and we say "polled" to make it clear that this subject to the same biases as any unscientific poll.

Would that be a reasonable compromise for all concerned?


I thought I replied to this, I must not have hit "post". I think this would be really interesting, and we should do it for sure. It would help us get to know each other and help others understand who we are (and aren't).
 
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Help me out more. :) I'm not averse to a sticky with it, but what would be in it?

Something like "Many of our members say they believe X, Y, and Z. Here's more info on that." Is that what you're thinking? I suppose it could really help visitors know what their getting into, but I wouldn't want it to keep people out.
 
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Help me out more. :) I'm not averse to a sticky with it, but what would be in it?

Something like "Many of our members say they believe X, Y, and Z. Here's more info on that." Is that what you're thinking? I suppose it could really help visitors know what their getting into, but I wouldn't want it to keep people out.

I guess it could be a sticky. I liked just saying the percentages, I think it would be really interesting. I don't want it to keep people out, either. Maybe it would have the opposite effect, though, because people could see that even if the majority believed "x,y,z", 15% believe "a,b,c", etc.
 
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Help me out more. :) I'm not averse to a sticky with it, but what would be in it?

Something like "Many of our members say they believe X, Y, and Z. Here's more info on that." Is that what you're thinking? I suppose it could really help visitors know what their getting into, but I wouldn't want it to keep people out.

Here's the idea:

We come up with a great big list of doctrines and we start a thread that lets people respond to them. We might set it up so that people can agree or disagree with the doctrine and then say whether they think that it is essential to the Christian faith. Once we have 20 or 30 people (or more if we can get that many) we either use a Sticky or the Wiki (no rhyme intended) to post the results.* One result for one particular doctrine might be:

Jesus is the eternal Word of God: 33 respondents
Yes: 90% (100% of those said it was essential to the faith)
No: 0%
Uncertain: 10%

* - As an aside, you suggest that we put links to things describing the particular doctrines. That sounds like a good idea to me.
 
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Wait though...wouldn't it be better to make a poll for it so that the results are more accurate? :scratch:

With only the people on the membership list able to vote.

Polls on what we believe or a poll about making this a sticky/wiki? :scratch:

I would think the answer would be yes to both. :pink:
 
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Yeah. Basically, I'm suggesting that the membership list not be a list of members at all, but a list of representatives who vote on things. That way, the representatives are seen as responsible to the regulars in the forum who self-identify as "Moderate Christians" and there's no sense of elitism regarding who is on the list vs. who isn't.

OK, gotcha now. Thank you.
 
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Polls on what we believe or a poll about making this a sticky/wiki? :scratch:

I would think the answer would be yes to both. :pink:

I don't think the built-in polling system lets you ask that many questions or with that sort of specificity.
 
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I'm just not sure it's needed, though.

If we make the site-wide rules paramount, and only add a couple of things:

1. Those who self-identify as a moderate Christian are members of this forum.

2. Discussion is welcomed, debate is not. Discussion allows for different points of view to be brought to the table without condemnation and judgement. Debate, by its nature of having a winner and a loser, is not fitting with the spirit of this forum.

3. Only members who have added their names to the membership list may vote in mod and policy elections.


I think that should be it, personally.
I think my colleague Freedom&Light has it in a nutshell. The simpler the better.
 
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