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Despite claims that the jabs provide upwards of 90 percent protection against illness with COVID-19, the PHE document lists deaths involving the virus in some 0.4 percent of vaccinated individuals died within 28 days of a positive COVID test. Of those hospitalized, the rate stands at 22.7 percent having died. This compares with the unvaccinated category, of which 0.17 percent died within 28 days of a positive COVID test overall, and of those hospitalized 8.5 percent had died.

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Despite claims that the jabs provide upwards of 90 percent protection against illness with COVID-19, the PHE document lists deaths involving the virus in some 0.4 percent of vaccinated individuals died within 28 days of a positive COVID test. Of those hospitalized, the rate stands at 22.7 percent having died. This compares with the unvaccinated category, of which 0.17 percent died within 28 days of a positive COVID test overall, and of those hospitalized 8.5 percent had died.
Assuming these numbers are correct... What's the ratio after one corrects for the age profile of the two groups? They did do that, right? Since the age profile differs substantially between the vaccinated and unvaccinated, and since the risk varies enormously with age, failing to account for this effect requires either an intent to deceive or utter incompetence.
 
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failing to account for this effect requires either an intent to deceive or utter incompetence.
Like listing COVID as the cause of death simply because the deceased had the virus, even though they actually died from something else?
 
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Despite claims that the jabs provide upwards of 90 percent protection against illness with COVID-19, the PHE document lists deaths involving the virus in some 0.4 percent of vaccinated individuals died within 28 days of a positive COVID test. Of those hospitalized, the rate stands at 22.7 percent having died. This compares with the unvaccinated category, of which 0.17 percent died within 28 days of a positive COVID test overall, and of those hospitalized 8.5 percent had died.

England’s public health stats show hospitalization and death occur at higher rate among the vaccinated - LifeSite
This is just another of many things I've heard that make me doubt anybody's claims —particularly statistics. There's nothing I can believe that would make me see good reason to get the vaccination, nor even to put on the mask. Too much lying, even if it is on both sides. Too much playing with words and flip-flopping, always promoted with vehemence, too much coercion, too much bullying and political correctness, virtue signaling, etc etc etc. Sick of it all.

This country is sick, and it isn't because of the Covid.
 
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Like listing COVID as the cause of death simply because the deceased had the virus, even though they actually died from something else?
No, nothing like that. Determining exact causes of death is difficult, as is determining how many have died of covid. Since the UK government has zero reason to inflate the death rate, the idea that there's some kind of effort here to inflate death counts makes no sense.

No, what I'm talking about is simply lying with statistics. It's malicious and it's evil. Don't propagate it.
 
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This thread isn't about your country.
Sure it is. It relates. Should I have said, 'this world is sick'?

And no, I'm not saying it's about ONLY the USA.
 
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