Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested

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And as we all know, Trump is a businessman, not a slick politician- which is why he got elected - thus he didn’t explain his views like a professional politician does, especially early on in his campaign, when your little video was recorded.
It's not a Politician vs Businessman thing here
It is a Decent Human Being vs indecent.
Any decent human being isn't going to characterise Mexicans as drug dealers and rapists.

But it’s clear what he meant, because it’s common sense that if you leave the front door of your house open at all times, you’re going to find all kinds of criminals coming into your house - same with borders.
It's almost never clear what Trump means when he talks. That why you have so many Republicans running around afterwards, go to the tv channels and trying hard to turn Trump's message into something halfway decent. "Well, what he meant was...."


Noone, certainly not the Democratic party, are trying to have open borders and just leave the front door open. That is a huge mischaracterisation.
 
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Pelosi said building and having walls is immoral - not that a wall itself is immoral.
Just any wall?
Building houses and fences is moral, but building walls in immoral??????

Are you able to please provide a link to support your case?
 
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But instead it would be best to actually listen to what the Democratic party is saying about border control, drugs and why they are calling Trump and this administration racist.

Increasing numbers of black folks see right through dirty partisan political twisting of Trumps words and actions into being racist or bigoted, such as Alveda King, MLKs niece, in this video:

 
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Yes, it’s leftist democrat judges in the 9th district, that keep interfering with the presidents authority to run the country - and their stupid rulings keep getting overturned by the Supreme Court.
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In order to get Trump's travel ban through the courts, Trump had to modify it. It certainly wasn't going to get through in its original form.
 
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Pelosi said building and having walls is immoral - not that a wall itself is immoral.

But you already knew that before your disingenuous statement, I’m sure.
I have no idea what Peloi said on this topic as you have not provided any links to what she said.
 
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It's not a Politician vs Businessman thing here
It is a Decent Human Being vs indecent.
Any decent human being isn't going to characterise Mexicans as drug dealers and rapists.


It's almost never clear what Trump means when he talks. That why you have so many Republicans running around afterwards, go to the tv channels and trying hard to turn Trump's message into something halfway decent. "Well, what he meant was...."


Noone, certainly not the Democratic party, are trying to have open borders and just leave the front door open. That is a huge mischaracterisation.

Guess you missed the Democrats who’ve said they’ll tear down the walls if they get a chance.

Any smart human being knows Trump was clearly talking about the kind of people that sneak into a country illegally.

Obviously you’re going to get the dregs of humanity coming across as well as those who aren’t criminals.

Trump said nothing wrong - in fact the majority of Hispanics agree with Trump on illegal immigration.
 
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He’s audited every year by the IRS - they found nothing illegal about his tax returns, so I couldn’t care less about them.
If the numbers on the tax returns aren't contradicted by other financial documents, there wouldn't be anything illegal.

Unfortunately, information keeps coming out that maybe those numbers on his tax returns aren't so accurate after all. In which case ...
 
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As I explained to Chad earlier, this is why the IRS is still auditing 10 years of returns. He claimed a refund of $79.6 million. I don't think he's gotten it yet, but he is applying it towards his taxes every year. The IRS says that the deduction he took (bankrupt Taj Mahal Casino) to get the $79.6 million is disallowed, but if you had a rotating team of lawyers because you have been involved in thousands of lawsuits in your lifetime you would be able to fight and fight and fight, too. He will lose eventually.

The main factual issue in the past ten years of Trump tax returns is that ten years ago he claimed a loss that gave him a tax refund of $79.6 million. He has been claiming that refund, a little every year, for the past ten years--hence no taxes.

Only problem was that the deduction was illegal and the IRS is disallowing it--and Trump's lawyers keep stalling and appealing. The deduction was illegal because when the Taj Mahal in Atlantic City went bankrupt (Bankruptcy #6, I believe, at least on paper) he claimed it as a total loss.

Instead he received something of value from the bankruptcy--a 5% interest in a much larger casino operation. If someone receives something of value it's not a total loss. I can picture him fuming, "Darn that paper trail!"

Part of that 5% interest gave him a $21.6 million check from a Las Vegas casino that helped get him through his 2016 campaign. It was funneled through a sham corporation with no address or phone # but was traced back to Trump. More financial shenanigans.

So he just hasn't been paying, using up his $79.6 million from a deduction he claimed which will surely be disallowed if his lawyers ever stop fighting. With interest at the moment, his "balance due" will be over $100 million.
 
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Push comes to shove, he could always ask Joe and Hunter how to get Ukraine and China to hand over millions to him as well. Obviously, the Dems don't seem to condemn such a practice.
I guess the Bidens are just better businessmen than the Trumps.
 
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Trump said nothing wrong - in fact the majority of Hispanics agree with Trump on illegal immigration.
Which one, the one which tried to ban Muslims from entering the country, or the one which tried to steal money from veterans to fund his wall (the one which Mexico was supposed to pay for - something Donald couldn't get done)?
 
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Yep. For some people "law and order" is more than just an empty campaign slogan. They actually think that laws are meaningful, even fraud and tax laws.
LOLOL Yeah the last poll I saw showed most people don’t care. But by all means, obsess away.
 
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Hispanics don't support Trump on this.
 
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In the past Democrats were for everything Trump is doing about illegal immigration.

I have videos of Bill Clinton, Obama, and other Democrat leaders still in Congress today, talking about the need to build more border barriers and stopping illegal immigration.

Today those same leaders claim that the very thing they not only supported - but voted for in a bill in 2006 - is racist and bigoted.
It's almost like the world is a different place than it was 14 years ago and people change their minds......
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.In the three years before the pandemic, Trumps economy doubled the amount of manufacturing jobs - which Obama in his infamous MAGIC WAND speech, said Trump couldn’t do, because its impossible
To be fair though that is just plain false. He certainly increased the number of jobs but he did not double them...really not even close...
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So instead of the 200% increase you your, undoubtedly from trumps mouth, in fact that number is closer to 3.3%. which is healthy. And reasonable.
 
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Strange that none of those "crimes and misdemeanors" were ever proven during the impeachment witch hunt. Surely there must be some competent investigators somewhere that could have found the smoking gun.
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Especially after 2 1/2 years, 12 investigators, dozens of lawyers, 500 subpoenas, a grand jury, and 35 million dollars wasted, to find not one thing Trump did that is indictable.
 
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So instead of the 200% increase you your, undoubtedly from trumps mouth, in fact that number is closer to 3.3%. which is healthy. And reasonable.


I didn’t say he doubled the total number of jobs, but of the category of MANUFACTURING jobs, which WAPO reports was 200,000 plus annually in the Obama years, and doubled to over 400,000 plus in Trumps first three years.

WAPO:

“Since Trump took office, the economy has added 6.7 million jobs, 487,000 of them in manufacturing. That’s 7 percent of the total — a higher density than the last three years of Obama’s administration, when 262,000 of about 8 million jobs were in manufacturing”

Obama also said the days of 3% GDP were over, so he said there’s no way Trumps economic plan could get those numbers, except Trump did exactly that - before the Fed raised interest rates four times on Trump, knowing higher rates would hamper economic growth - after not raising them at all for the 8 Obama years.

Trumps economy was still higher than Obama’s was, even after four interest rate hikes.

That’s because unlike Obama, Trump actually has an economic plan.
 
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I didn’t say he doubled the total number of jobs, but of the category of MANUFACTURING jobs, which WAPO reports was 200,000 plus annually in the Obama years, and doubled to over 400,000 plus in Trumps first three years.
guy, showed you the graph with the data.
You are misunderstanding the article...Trump added twice as many jobs as Obama he did not "double manufacturing jobs".

Here is where you said he doubled manufacturing jobs.
.In the three years before the pandemic, Trumps economy doubled the amount of manufacturing jobs
this is false.
Is there a reason why you didn't include a link to this story?


Obama also said the days of 3% GDP were over, so he said there’s no way Trumps economic plan could get those numbers, except Trump did exactly that - before the Fed raised interest rates four times on Trump, knowing higher rates would hamper economic growth - after not raising them at all for the 8 Obama years
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1. As If they are going to raise in in the first 4 years under Obama...he was dragging you all out of the valley you were in. Are suggesting that after 7 years of solid growth that the bank should NOT be raising interest rates? You have some heavy insinuation that this is another way that Trump is a victim.




Trumps economy was still higher than Obama’s was, even after four interest rate hikes.
so? He inherited something good. Obama inherited a complete debacle. The comparison is silly in my opinion.

That’s because unlike Obama, Trump actually has an economic plan.
Obama doesn't have a plan? How dare he? How can he do that when he is even running for office?! Doesn't he know the people who are voting against Obama can't get a foothold without it???
 
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