Does white privilege exist in the US?

[SilverBear]

Boy, that's a lot of judicial bias! So judges across the board just jug theBlack folks and turn the whites loose, that it? Maybe it's just judges who are racist. Wonder why?

Why is their environment more dangerous?

That isn't what causes the near constant rattle of gunfire in inner city streets, though, is it?

according to the department of justice
Blacks are 15 times as likely to be ticketed for the same driving violations as whites
Blacks are are 5 times more likely to be arrested than whites for the same activities
Blacks are 800 times more likely to be shot by police than whites
Blacks are 18 times more likely to be prosecuted for the same crimes as whites
Blacks are 10 times more likely to be convicted than whites for the same crimes
Blacks receive longer jail sentences than whites for the same convictions.
Blacks are denied parole twice as often as white convicts

 

[Lord Give Me A Sign]

Look up the Department of Justice (DOJ) annual victimization studies reports. The DOJ has thousands of people called and asks them questions: Were you the victim of a crime? What kind of crime was it? What race was the perpetrator? What was the age of the perpetrator? Etc. These studies have consistently shown that police are arresting blacks in proportion to the amount of crime they commit. Numbers don't lie. So it's not that our judicial system is biased; it's that black people are more prone to committing crime.

But why are more prone to committing crime? I believe its the environment, or 2nd class society that they live in

I have heard first hand accounts of blacks getting beaten up by police or at the very least harassed when being pulled over. These types of incidents dont show up in the statistics

Check out the song "black cop" by Krs one. Hes one of the few rappers that would speak on real issues instead of glorifying all the things that are destructive to the black community. Theres a whole lot people dont know if they arent familiar with the environment, things that dont show up in the statistics. If not for the incident being recorded, im not sure if Rodney King would be known

Edit

The Rodney King incident was recorded by a sony camcorder by some man on his balcony. Im sure theres many incidents of police brutality that dont show up on the statistics, that are often overlooked

 

[Nine of Spades]

But why are more prone to committing crime? I believe its the environment, or 2nd class society that they live in

You ask why blacks are more prone to committing crime. Then you blame the environment, or "the system," or whatever. Does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you? We're all responsible for our actions. If I were poor and decided rob a gas station with a gun, why would my poverty have anything to do with my choice to do something evil?

 

[Speedwell]

You ask why blacks are more prone to committing crime. Then you blame the environment, or "the system," or whatever. Does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you? We're all responsible for our actions. If I were poor and decided rob a gas station with a gun, why would my poverty have anything to do with my choice to do something evil?

It's easier to decide to rob a gas station if you really, really need the money--especially if you're ticked off at being poor in the first place.

 

[Nine of Spades]

It's easier to decide to rob a gas station if you really, really need the money--especially if you're ticked off at being poor in the first place.

Yeah, it's a lot easier to rob a gas station with a gun, putting people's lives in danger, if someone really really needs money instead of getting a job. Again, does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you?

 

[Lord Give Me A Sign]

You ask why blacks are more prone to committing crime. Then you blame the environment, or "the system," or whatever. Does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you? We're all responsible for our actions. If I were poor and decided rob a gas station with a gun, why would my poverty have anything to do with my choice to do something evil?

Of course personal responsibility has meaning to me. But the consequences for crimes are often more harsh in these poor, impoverished communities then they are in middle or upper class towns

 

[FireDragon76]

Not essentially, but there is always a strong smell of "We've done enough. They should be grateful" that rises off of discussions like this.

Unfortunately, discussions about race in the US right now are poisoned by extremism and a lack of empathy.

 

[Speedwell]

Yeah, it's a lot easier to rob a gas station with a gun, putting people's lives in danger, if someone really really needs money instead of getting a job. Again, does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you?

Oh, instead of getting a job. If they weren't so lazy and irresponsible they'd just go get jobs. But they do got rhythm.

 

[Speedwell]

Unfortunately, discussions about race in the US right now are poisoned by extremism and a lack of empathy.

What do you mean? Slavery is over, Jim crow is over, discrimination is illegal. Black people are perfectly free to act like white people. It's not our fault they don't.

 

[FireDragon76]

Yeah, it's a lot easier to rob a gas station with a gun, putting people's lives in danger, if someone really really needs money instead of getting a job. Again, does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you?

"Personal responsibility" is often just a way for certain conservatives to dodge having to consider the context around a persons actions.

America is a dysfunctional society and not that far from a failed state, and its problems with race relations are really a symptom more than a cause. Respect for civility and basic moral education are severely lacking among many Americans.

 

[Monksailor]

White privilege???? You gotta be kidding!!! I cannot believe that anyone had to ask that. It has been clearly everyone BUT that , except for females, of course. Well, maybe I can understand the question with this Marxist hullabalu trash going on to try to create civil war or an economic atomic bomb or just mistrust, violence, and a lack of unity and cooperation in the USA.

 

[Speedwell]

It's good to have the Christian view on this presented so clearly.

 

[DarkGalaxy501]

I grew up down south of US. Still live in the same city to this day. I attended university here and started my own business that caused me to travel throughout this major city, and eventually made some career change. So I am going to speak based on my personal experience and what I have witnessed....

Does white privilege exist? .....I haven't seen it at all. At least not down south where I live. I attended an elementary, middle and high school with kids who were mostly low income. There were some middle income kids and barely any high income dudes. In terms of race, we were mainly hispanic (as I am), blacks, very rarely some whites, and I hardly ever had an Asian attend any of the schools i attended. During this period of my life we were all treated equally and fairly. We received free meals at school because we qualified for it. Those who passed their classes were the ones who studied and those who failed were the ones who didnt study. My white friends never got any free passes. I had quite a few white friends that slacked off so badly and they ended up failing. And I have some black friends that studied like crazy and got some crazy awesome scholarships. I graduated second of my class in high school, but because I was lazy when it came time to apply for scholarships, I barely got any superb offers. I just got enough to cover all my tuition. However, for my friends that didnt slack up for preparing themselves to qualify for scholarships, they got a good amount. And my friends were mainly hispanic, and some black.

Now during college time, those that went to the good colleges were the ones who didnt slack off at school. I had quite a few black friends that went to great universities (better than myself). A bunch of my hispanic friends went to Ivy league schools, and the white friends that i did have went to average universities. Nonetheless we all worked hard to try to secure a good career. Those that didnt party during college, but rather studied and got internships, got awesome jobs. It didnt matter their race. What mattered was their experience and piece of paper that said they were nerds (aka bachelors -its a joke so dont be so hard on yourself).

I graduated with an accounting degree but hard a challenging time ever getting a job in my field sadly. I decided to start my own business. And it was so cool and fun. Made some cash and got to travel. Met all sorts of people in all sorts of life. Met other business owners too (of diverse races too). It didnt matter if they were black, white, hispanic, martian, etc, if they hustled hard for their bread they would get it. I knew some young dudes that were loaded because they worked hard for their money.

When I did my career change and started "joining the work force" I was asked the same questions as everyone else....Do I have experience? Do I have my nerd diploma? Can I tell you about a time when i solved a super hard problem? Etc......

What i am trying to say is...that all my friends and myself had to hustle to get what we wanted. If we kept going after our goals we achieved them. That goes for my hispanic, black, white and asian friends...There was no privilege what so ever. I never saw my white friends that slacked off get free rides to ivy league universities. I never saw my white friends that slacked off made loads of money. Those that got free rides and loads of money were the ones that worked hard for it....

The only ones that I did see who were privilege were my pets...They get a free ride. Free food, housing, rent, etc. Im thinking of starting a movement against this.

So that is what I have seen in my life.

 

[Sparagmos]

Why are Jews disproportionately in positions of power?

I wasn’t aware that they were. Why do you think that’s true?

 

[Sparagmos]

Numbers don't lie. So it's not that our judicial system is biased; it's that black people are more prone to committing crime.

Why do you think that is?

 

[Sparagmos]

You ask why blacks are more prone to committing crime. Then you blame the environment, or "the system," or whatever. Does the concept of personal responsibility have any meaning to you? We're all responsible for our actions. If I were poor and decided rob a gas station with a gun, why would my poverty have anything to do with my choice to do something evil?

So you think it’s their skin color? What about being black would make one more likely to be irresponsible?

 

[Ken-1122]

Does white privilege exist? I believe there is white privilege, black privilege, brown privilege, male privilege, female privilege, tall, short, religious, non religious, privileges, I believe whatever it is about you that makes you unique, there will be instance where it works to your advantage and instances when it will work to your disadvantage. The problem is when someone points the finger at someone else who has a privilege, without recognizing their own privileges.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Why is their environment more dangerous? Poverty. When there is less job opportunities people are more willing to go to desperate measures such as stealing and dealing drugs to make money

A lot of crime isn't economically motivated...

You don't know what white privilege actually is do you?

A conspiracy theory that is unique in that it is so nebulous that it doesn't even posit causes and affects of any kind. The whole point of the theory seems to be not to explain how it actually works...

I wasn’t aware that they were. Why do you think that’s true?

The same reason you believe whites are disproportionately in positions of power.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Prison population
Black males = 34%
White males = 29%

US population
Black population 13.4%
White population 61%

The vast majority of the prison population is male? Female privilege?

 

[Belk]

Imagine this: there is an unprivileged white student who lives in a trailer park. Despite his lower socio-economic status, he does well in school and scores high on the SAT/ACT.

Meanwhile there is a a privileged black student whose parents are millionaires. Despite having access to all sorts of resources, he does okay in school and scores not as high on the SAT/ACT as the white trailer park student.

Both of these students apply to the same university. The less qualified, privileged black gets accepted, but the more qualified, unprivileged white gets rejected.

That's how affirmative action works in the United States. It purports to exist to even the playing field and help disadvantaged people of color, but in reality it discriminates against white people, including genuinely disadvantaged white people. It's very unfair. And people say "white privilege" exists.

Here is another example. In the NFL 70% of the athletes are black. No one is saying we should have more diversity in the NFL and implement quotas for more white, Hispanic, and Asian players. Meanwhile 75% of all NFL coaches are white, and people are saying that is a major problem that needs to be fixed by creating incentives for teams to hire less qualified coaches of color. You can read about it here: NFL owners table proposal incentivizing hires of minority coaches, GMs (usatoday.com)

So let me get this straight... White privilege purports to exists in the US. Yet everyone thinks it's okay when 70% of NFL players are black, but having 75% of all NFL coaches being white is somehow a problem that needs to be corrected. Are you kidding me?

Both examples I listed sound like black privilege.

If you are trying to convince me you don't know how affirmative action and white privilege work, congrats. Mission accomplished.