Does The Sun Really Exist?

[Doveaman]

If I was born blind, how would you prove to me or convince me that the sun exist?

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

You can feel the heat of the sun can't you?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

If I was born blind, how would you prove to me or convince me that the sun exist?

I'd attach a thermal imaging device to a working part of your brain via electrodes, and train you to 'see' (or 'hear', or 'smell', or otherwise 'sense') the Sun.

BBC News - Two blind British men have electronic retinas fitted

New Technology Brings “Vision” to the Blind Via the Tongue

We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better... stronger... faster.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better... stronger... faster.

Smarter?

 

[JustMeSee]

You can feel the heat of the sun can't you?

 

[QueSi]

If I was born blind, how would you prove to me or convince me that the sun exist?

People with sight can't see the sun, only the light the sun puts off, much like God, we can't see him, only the affect He has on the earth.

 

[Doveaman]

You can feel the heat of the sun can't you?

How do I know the heat is from the sun?

 

[Doveaman]

I'd attach a thermal imaging device to a working part of your brain via electrodes, and train you to 'see' (or 'hear', or 'smell', or otherwise 'sense') the Sun.

This reminds me of God attaching a "spirit imaging device" to a working part of our brain, and training us to sense the Son.

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We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better... stronger... faster.

Sounds a lot like virtual reality.

 

[Doveaman]

People with sight can't see the sun, only the light the sun puts off, much like God, we can't see him, only the affect He has on the earth.

So what was the object from which this photo was taken? Could it be seen?

 

[Loudmouth]

If I was born blind, how would you prove to me or convince me that the sun exist?

Use a telescope that translates photon hits on the CCD into a raised textured map that you can touch. You can adjust the the output so as to show only the temperature ranges that you want. Using the laws of gravity and other observations you can also calculate the Earth's orbit around the hot mass that you detected with your telescope. This will allow you to calculate the distance to the hot mass. You can then calculate the needed energy output that the hot mass would need in order to heat the Earth. The orbits would also give you the mass, and the telescope readings would give you the surface temps and circumference.

We could then move into neutrino release which we could also translate into the same textured map instead of a visual display. This would allow you to determine the fusion reactions occuring in the Sun along with photon bandpass filters for spectrophotometry that would allow you to determine the elemental makeup of the Sun.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

How do I know the heat is from the sun?

Presumably like everybody else they feel the effects from the environment - where else could the heat be coming from? And presumably they can distinguish between different types of heat.

I could be wrong - but while I know blind people may wonder what "colour" and "light" are like, I have yet to hear of cases where a blind person didn't know what the sun itself was.

 

[Non sequitur]

Use a telescope that translates photon hits on the CCD into a raised textured map that you can touch. You can adjust the the output so as to show only the temperature ranges that you want. Using the laws of gravity and other observations you can also calculate the Earth's orbit around the hot mass that you detected with your telescope. This will allow you to calculate the distance to the hot mass. You can then calculate the needed energy output that the hot mass would need in order to heat the Earth. The orbits would also give you the mass, and the telescope readings would give you the surface temps and circumference.

We could then move into neutrino release which we could also translate into the same textured map instead of a visual display. This would allow you to determine the fusion reactions occuring in the Sun along with photon bandpass filters for spectrophotometry that would allow you to determine the elemental makeup of the Sun.

Boo, science.

Where's the mystery of the unknown of the unknown in all that? How unpleasant...

 

[AV1611VET]

If I was born blind, how would you prove to me or convince me that the sun exist?

They say on a clear night, you can hear the sun moving overhead.

 

[Notedstrangeperson]

Incidently OP's question reminded me of something I read in a book: the psychologist Richard Gregory was describing the first time his patient, known as S.B. (a blind man who had his eyesight restored as an adult), saw a quarter moon. He was quite surprised - he said he had expected it to be wedge-shaped rather than a crescent.

Which, when you think about it, makes sense. After all, what does the quarter of a round cake look like?

 

[Loudmouth]

Presumably like everybody else they feel the effects from the environment - where else could the heat be coming from? And presumably they can distinguish between different types of heat.

I could be wrong - but while I know blind people may wonder what "colour" and "light" are like, I have yet to hear of cases where a blind person didn't know what the sun itself was.

We can always translate photons into a display that a blind person can interact with using their sense of touch. Even sighted people can use instrumentation to "see" photons that are outside their visual range. You might as well ask a sighted person how they know that xrays exist, or that radiowaves exist.

 

[florida2]

Smarter?

I cannae change the laws of physics, Captain!

 

[QueSi]

So what was the object from which this photo was taken? Could it be seen?

Sure, objects (like cameras, radars, etc) can "see" the sun, but alas, we can not with the naked eye. If there was an object close enough and bright enough to illuminate the sun with electro-magnetic waves from the correct part of the visual spectrum, which would then be reflected into our eyes, then we could see the sun, besides that, we can only see pictures of the sun. It is a burning ball of gas. Light must be reflected off of an object, not emitted from it, in order for the object to be seen.

 

[quilbilly]

They say on a clear night, you can hear the sun moving overhead.

That's why I enjoy your posts av. Nutty as a fruitcake but always something to say

 

[Split Rock]

How do I know the heat is from the sun?

How do you know it is from the sun?

 

[Skaloop]

Sure, objects (like cameras, radars, etc) can "see" the sun, but alas, we can not with the naked eye. If there was an object close enough and bright enough to illuminate the sun with electro-magnetic waves from the correct part of the visual spectrum, which would then be reflected into our eyes, then we could see the sun, besides that, we can only see pictures of the sun. It is a burning ball of gas. Light must be reflected off of an object, not emitted from it, in order for the object to be seen.

Citation needed.