Does reality comprise only 5% of the Universe?

[AV1611VET]

Sure,

How does that contradict my Prime Directive then?

 

[Hans Blaster]

How does that contradict my Prime Directive then?

I didn't say it was in the least bit plausible for the Earth to suddenly stop spinning.

 

[AV1611VET]

I didn't say it was in the least bit plausible for the Earth to suddenly stop spinning.

If you think stopping the earth's rotation was too hard, check out this doosey God did:

Isaiah 38:8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

He not only stopped the forward rotation of the earth, He reversed it ten degrees!

 

[Hans Blaster]

If you think stopping the earth's rotation was too hard, check out this doosey God did:

Isaiah 38:8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

He not only stopped the forward rotation of the earth, He reversed it ten degrees!

I baffles me that you find this believable.

 

[AV1611VET]

I baffles me that you find this believable.

It shouldn't.

I believe in miracles, which is an integral part of my faith.

 

[sjastro]

And you believe them?

I say they're wrong.

QV please:



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Except there is a problem with this argument, stopping the Earth spinning on its axis does not stop the moon's motion across the sky.
It will move slowly in a west to east direction.
Clearly in the Joshua verse the Sun and the Moon have the same status as bodies moving across the sky relative to a stationary Earth which is the geocentric model.
Then there is the RC church which burnt people at the stake or imprisoned them for expressing a heliocentric view.
The church adopted Ptolemy's geocentric view of the universe as they found verses in the Bible such as Joshua which supported it.,

No, it doesn't.



It states:

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x

If the Prime Directive is not to be violated requires if the Bible states ø or x then go with ø or x respectively.
Rule #4 clearly violates your Prime Directive as you're going with what the science says not the Bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

Except there is a problem with this argument, stopping the Earth spinning on its axis does not stop the moon's motion across the sky. It will move slowly in a west to east direction.

How? running on angular momentum?

If so, what if the momentum is drained out at the same time the earth's rotation is halted?

After all, if momentum hadn't been drained, then those in Mesopotamia would have ended up in China.

If the Prime Directive is not to be violated requires if the Bible states ø or x then go with ø or x respectively.
Rule #4 clearly violates your Prime Directive as you're going with what the science says not the Bible.

"If the Bible states" is the key to understanding this.

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x

Rule 4 applies in situations where the Bible does not state.

 

[sjastro]

How? running on angular momentum?

If so, what if the momentum is drained out at the same time the earth's rotation is halted?

After all, if momentum hadn't been drained, then those in Mesopotamia would have ended up in China.

Good grief.
The moon orbits the Earth, stopping the Earth's rotation will reveal this motion.

"If the Bible states" is the key to understanding this.

4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x

Rule 4 applies in situations where the Bible does not state.

And the same logic applies, if the Bible does not state requires science does not state in order for the Prime Directive not to be violated otherwise you are admitting science knows more than the Bible.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It shouldn't.

I believe in miracles, which is an integral part of my faith.

Stubborn resistance to reality is a characteristic you exhibit.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good grief.

Or a miracle.

The moon orbits the Earth, stopping the Earth's rotation will reveal this motion.

How? angular momentum?

If so, what if the momentum is drained out at the same time the earth's rotation is halted?

And the same logic applies, if the Bible does not state requires science does not state ...

Then Rule 5 applies.

5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

 

[AV1611VET]

Stubborn resistance to reality is a characteristic you exhibit.

It's the interpretation of reality that I disagree with.

 

[sjastro]

Or a miracle.



How? angular momentum?

If so, what if the momentum is drained out at the same time the earth's rotation is halted?

What are you going on about?
The moon has an orbital angular momentum irrespective if the Earth is spinning on its axis or not.

Then Rule 5 applies.

5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

So therefore ø = does not state becomes x = does state and rule #4 still contradicts your Prime Directive as science knows more than the Bible since you go with x.

 

[AV1611VET]

What are you going on about?

God did it.

The moon has an orbital angular momentum irrespective if the Earth is spinning on its axis or not.

Neat.

So therefore ø = does not state becomes x = does state and rule #4 still contradicts your Prime Directive as science knows more than the Bible since you go with x.

Spin it however you want.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

 

[sjastro]

God did it.

It remarkable how your your fairy tale has unfolded in this thread with comments like "what if the momentum is drained out at the same time the earth's rotation is halted?".
It's your fairy tale not God's.

Neat.

Rather than God doing it, orbital angular momentum of the moon was worked by Newton in the 17th century.

Spin it however you want.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

This is blind faith in operation and your inability to accept the logical flaws found in your reasoning.

 

[Kylie]

Good question. We can touch, smell, see, experience and do stuff with the reality we live in. Not so much with Dark Energy.

So? By this logic, there was once a point where electrons were not part of reality.

 

[AV1611VET]

It remarkable how your fairy tale has unfolded in this thread with comments like "what if the momentum is drained out at the same time the earth's rotation is halted?".
It's your fairy tale not God's.

If you have a better "fairy tale" that adheres to the standards I put forth in Post 112, I'd love to hear it.

 

[timewerx]

Dark energy is a mysterious force that appears to be causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate.

If you estimate the total mass of the Universe and calculate its Schwarzchild Radius, you'll realize this Radius is well within the known boundary of the Universe.

What that means is the Universe we know, or at least, most of it, including ourselves exist inside an extremely large black hole roughly the size of our Universe.

If you want to know what's inside a black hole, look no further and pinch yourself, that's you! But as silly scientists go, they can't predict what goes inside the black hole, it is the region of space where physics don't make sense...... At the scale of the Universe, we begin to deal with the "macroscopic" version of quantum mechanics. Our universe could even be somebody else's atom.

.....Why many things in our Universe, don't make sense....that's because it's inside a really huge black hole! OR we are just really really tiny and we don't even know it!

 

[AV1611VET]

Who is that?

 

[dlamberth]

So? By this logic, there was once a point where electrons were not part of reality.

Was the once upon a time our reality that we are living in?
What about today? What's going on now where there are electrons.

 

[sjastro]

If you have a better "fairy tale" that adheres to the standards I put forth in Post 112, I'd love to hear it.

This doesn't even make any sense.
I've spent the last few posts showing your standards are illogical and contradictory while your fairy tale attempts to show Joshua 10:12 has nothing to do with geocentricism.