Does believing Genesis is wrong make me a bad Christian?

[Brightmoon]

You look a lot more like your cousin than apes. Seriously. The DNA is vastly different

. 99% similar isn’t exactly vastly different. I look more like my cousins because we’re in the same species and we share the same great grandparents . Chimps bonobos and humans haven’t been the same species for 7 million years and I’m not gonna write out all those great greats

 

[GodLovesCats]

So if humans are biologically apes why don't we look like them completely?

We do look completely like apes except for having a lot less hair.

 

[section9+1]

We do look completely like apes except for having a lot less hair.

I find it interesting that you do not believe what God said he did regarding human origins back in Genesis but you believe God loves your cat which he said nothing at all about doing.

 

[GodLovesCats]

All you need is a pen, papers, some images of dead bones that have similar parts, paste them on the paper and then make some lines between them. Not very hard. no one has ever seen any of these dead bones produce anything else but it's OWN KIND with minor differences/defects which usually dies off.

Show me a beneficial mutation that doesn't cause a negative outcome as well. Only a pure beneficial mutation.

To know something for a fact, you have to OBSERVE it. You have to perceive the REAL THING. Scientists, of course, spent a lot of time doing that when they found parts of Lucy.

You are making assumptions based on not knowing anything paleontologists do all day.

 

[Brightmoon]

All you need is a pen, papers, some images of dead bones that have similar parts, paste them on the paper and then make some lines between them. Not very hard. no one has ever seen any of these dead bones produce anything else but it's OWN KIND with minor differences/defects which usually dies off.

Show me a beneficial mutation that doesn't cause a negative outcome as well. Only a pure beneficial mutation.

This is creationist fantasy genetics and no one uses this nonsense except creationists . Beneficial mutations enable better survival rates among the organisms that have them . A black snail on black sand will be less likely to be eaten than a white snail on that same black sand . Guess which one gets to have a family after a predator spots one?

 

[Andre_b]

To know something for a fact, you have to OBSERVE it. You have to perceive the REAL THING. Scientists, of course, spent a lot of time doing that when they found parts of Lucy.

You are making assumptions based on not knowing anything paleontologists do all day.

The bible says they will bring forth after their own kind.
Genesis 1:24 “And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.”

Show me the proof that anything breads forth NOT after their own kind. 0 evidence of this. Except pictures of dead bones with lines between them.

Lucy is a big hoax. If you seriously believe that a couple of bones like this is the missing link, that's wild in my opinion. Some of the bones are not from this species apparently.

 

[Andre_b]

This is creationist fantasy genetics and no one uses this nonsense except creationists . Beneficial mutations enable better survival rates among the organisms that have them . A black snail on black sand will be less likely to be eaten than a white snail on that same black sand . Guess which one gets to have a family after a predator spots one?

It's still a snail. Just a black one. which it will die on white sand. The genetic code is already there with the capability, why doesn't it change to green on green sand.

 

[GodLovesCats]

I find it interesting that you do not believe what God said he did regarding human origins back in Genesis but you believe God loves your cat which he said nothing at all about doing.

My whole point has been there is proof of evolution, so the story about everything being made in six days is obviously wrong as written. What I read and what scientists observe are not compatible.

The word "human" means a member of the homo sapiens species now that no other human species exist. If cats have souls, would you say the soul is what makes them cats or their biological status as felines?

 

[NBB]

The body and soul are not the same thing. It is possible to have a body with no soul. So I will never see a reason to believe just having a soul makes humans not evolved from other apes.

What makes us humans is mostly our soul and spirit. The most important part of ourselves has nothing to do with apes, evolutionist fix it by saying the brain does everything we christians should know better.

 

[NBB]

My whole point has been there is proof of evolution, so the story about everything being made in six days is obviously wrong as written. What I read and what scientists observe are not compatible.

The word "human" means a member of the homo sapiens species now that no other human species exist. If cats have souls, would you say the soul is what makes them cats or their biological status as felines?

Your intelligence comes from your spiritual part, the same, as your feelings, your sense of conciousness, practically what we are is in the soul and spirit. We would not be able to have communion with God if we were a brain only.

 

[GodLovesCats]

The Bible says they will bring forth after their own kind.

Genesis 1:24 “And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.”

Show me the proof that anything breads forth NOT after their own kind. Zero evidence of this except pictures of dead bones with lines between them.

Lucy is a big hoax. If you seriously believe that a couple of bones like this is the missing link, that's wild in my opinion. Some of the bones are not from this species apparently.

Lucy is obviously NOT a hoax. Scientists found A LOT more than "a couple of bones" and put together real bones in a lab. They dated the bones as closely as possible. You have this idea all they did was draw what they think she looked like without having any knowledge about the research that was done before putting pencils on paper.

 

[GodLovesCats]

What makes us humans is mostly our soul and spirit. The most important part of ourselves has nothing to do with apes, evolutionist fix it by saying the brain does everything we Christians should know better.

Nope. "Human" is the word for the animal we are, just like cat, dog, horse, cattle, and pig, except we are the only species left.

 

[NBB]

Nope. "Human" is the word for the animal we are, just like cat, dog, horse, cattle, and pig, except we are the only species left.

We are not this piece of flesh and bones we are so much more than that, evolutionists 'contaminated' you thinking we are a piece of flesh, your person is spiritual mostly. That the true value of people. ç

"this treasure in vessels of mud" that the bible talks... we would be like a rock without our spiritual part.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Your intelligence comes from your spiritual part, the same, as your feelings, your sense of consciousness, practically what we are is in the soul and spirit. We would not be able to have communion with God if we were a brain only.

So humans are the only animals capable of thoughts, feelings, and consciousness? That is not true. Being able and willing to do what no other animal can psychologically is spiritual, but the basic concepts are not limited to humans.

 

[GodLovesCats]

We are not this piece of flesh and bones. We are so much more than that. Evolutionists 'contaminated' you thinking we are a piece of flesh, your person is spiritual mostly. That the true value of people.

"This treasure in vessels of mud" that the Bible talks. We would be like a rock without our spiritual part.

Evolutionists never contaminated me. The word "human" means the kind of animal we are. It is biological and has nothing to do with the spirit and soul within us.

You are hung up on the idea that just because a spirit and soul are within us, what makes people human can't possibly be a physical thing. That is DEAD WRONG.

 

[Job 33:6]

When did the ape give birth to man? Dead fossils don't have successions. You don't have any idea it had kids and you don't have any idea what it's family truly was. All you know is that it DIED. Similarities in design between kinds doesn't mean they came from each other.

The succession is based on morphological features and temporal locality. You don't have to witness a skeleton giving birth to another skeleton to recognize succession

Just as there is a succession of colors in a rainbow, birth isn't necessary in the equation for the sequence to be observed.

So the question then becomes, what is the best explanation for this sequence of fossils.

 

[Andre_b]

Lucy is obviously NOT a hoax. Scientists found A LOT more than "a couple of bones" and put together real bones in a lab. They dated the bones as closely as possible. You have this idea all they did was draw what they think she looked like without having any knowledge about the research that was done before putting pencils on paper.

Yes Lucy IS a hoax. You believe there are 0 lies in science? Humans involved in anything will contain lies.

Problems with Lucy and Skull 1470

 

[Andre_b]

The succession is based on morphological features and temporal locality. You don't have to witness a skeleton giving birth to another skeleton to recognize succession

Just as there is a succession of colors in a rainbow, birth isn't necessary in the equation for the sequence to be observed.

So the question then becomes, what is the best explanation for this sequence of fossils.

Wow, very unscientific really. That proves nothing. It's the same as putting lines on a paper to connect things that "look alike". That's terrible "science"

 

[NBB]

So humans are the only animals capable of thoughts, feelings, and consciousness? That is not true. Being able and willing to do what no other animal can psychologically is spiritual, but the basic concepts are not limited to humans.

Humans are immensely more than animals, animals don't even know why they wake up in the morning, have even trouble recognizing themselves in the mirror, can't even do the simplest things people do, they are driven by basically instincts.

 

[Favoredclay]

. You’d first have prove it was designed . Our DNA PROVES the family lineage with chimps and other apes . Where have you been over the last 30 years . Biologists don’t use fossils to determine a family lineage they use DNA . So 19th century

fossils are used to clarify ancestry branches not to determine relatedness

So where did DNA and RNA evolve from. The building blocks of all living creatures....What does historic science say about those. You can't have species without them. To think all this happened by random chance.


Just for fun conversation, Let's assume us wacko Christians are right about God and creation.....On judgement day How are all the evolutionist gonna tell God He didn't make us? Wonder if he'll let us watch them make their case?