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Does anyone listen to Ann Coulter anymore?
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Blemonds did not reply to my earlier post about Cananda because it contains facts. It demonstrates that Coulter knows NOTHING about foreign countries or foreign policy.
Blemonds in post #289:
<< Yes, we have video tape in particular of McDermott, Bonior and Penn on foreign (enemy) soil criticizing our government in the lead up to war. That is treason. the fact that these people are not in Leavenworth right now is evidence of a weakness in America. A weakness I would like to see us overcome. Oh my Gosh. In my old age, I must becoming senile. We talk of treason and I left out Hanoi Jane. Hanoi Jane should have been executed by firing squad. No ifs, ands, or buts. >>
Some say that John Kerry should be shot for treason for disagreeing with his Commander-In-Chief. One wonders if General Douglas MacArthur would also be shot for treason, since his disagreements with President Truman are well known.
A fake photo showing John Kerry and Jane Fonda on stage together at an anti-war rally has made the rounds. This is mentioned in the September issue of Readers Digest. Photo sleuths say the picture of Kerry came from a rally in New York while the picture of Fonda was taken in Miami, in different years.
Not everything that Jane Fonda is reputed to have said and done in North Vietnam is true. Moreover, Jane Fonda isnt the only American, or the first, or the highest ranking, to take such a trip. Ramsey Clark visited North Vietnam in the summer of 1971 as part of a propaganda show. He had been Lyndon Johnsons Attorney General only a couple of years before. Clarks visit would seem to me to be of far more importance. Ramsey Clark hasnt dropped off the map, he is involved in every radical cause youve ever heard of and several you never imagined possible.
When reactionaries denounce Jane Fonda and never mention Ramsey Clark it looks like they dont know the history of the era that obsesses them.
Personally, I find the spectacle of former South Vietnamese President Ky living in California running a tobacco shop more infuriating. Americans took nearly sixty thousand deaths and a million serious injuries while South Vietnam couldnt rouse a ghost of a hint of a flicker of interest in defending itself.
Blemonds in post #289:
<< Yes, we have video tape in particular of McDermott, Bonior and Penn on foreign (enemy) soil criticizing our government in the lead up to war. That is treason. the fact that these people are not in Leavenworth right now is evidence of a weakness in America. A weakness I would like to see us overcome. Oh my Gosh. In my old age, I must becoming senile. We talk of treason and I left out Hanoi Jane. Hanoi Jane should have been executed by firing squad. No ifs, ands, or buts. >>
Some say that John Kerry should be shot for treason for disagreeing with his Commander-In-Chief. One wonders if General Douglas MacArthur would also be shot for treason, since his disagreements with President Truman are well known.
A fake photo showing John Kerry and Jane Fonda on stage together at an anti-war rally has made the rounds. This is mentioned in the September issue of Readers Digest. Photo sleuths say the picture of Kerry came from a rally in New York while the picture of Fonda was taken in Miami, in different years.
Not everything that Jane Fonda is reputed to have said and done in North Vietnam is true. Moreover, Jane Fonda isnt the only American, or the first, or the highest ranking, to take such a trip. Ramsey Clark visited North Vietnam in the summer of 1971 as part of a propaganda show. He had been Lyndon Johnsons Attorney General only a couple of years before. Clarks visit would seem to me to be of far more importance. Ramsey Clark hasnt dropped off the map, he is involved in every radical cause youve ever heard of and several you never imagined possible.
When reactionaries denounce Jane Fonda and never mention Ramsey Clark it looks like they dont know the history of the era that obsesses them.
Personally, I find the spectacle of former South Vietnamese President Ky living in California running a tobacco shop more infuriating. Americans took nearly sixty thousand deaths and a million serious injuries while South Vietnam couldnt rouse a ghost of a hint of a flicker of interest in defending itself.
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Either that or I was watching a movie and haven't even seen the post. Frankly, I refuted post after post regarding Ann and rather than admit error, her detractors just copy n' paste another smear from a "hate Ann Coulter websiteDale said:
I've never heard anybody say that. I would have considered having him shot for his consorting with the North Vietnamese during the Paris peace talks, but not for disagreeing with his Commander-in-Chief. I assume you made that allegation up
While this is true, it does not absolve her of the things I mentioned which she did indeed do.
That also does not absolve her of her crimes. Ramsey Clark in his own right is also a traitor as is Tom Hayden.
It's not necessary to mention every single person involved in a situation in order to make a point. That is just a dodge to avoid the reality of my comments
All irrelvant to my statements.
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Go back and read my posts and then get back to me. If you'll notice, none of my refutations were challenged. The other side merely said, in essence, "Yeah but, what about when Ann Coulter said this".Cliche Guevara said:
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I like that one. But it brings this to mind..tulc said:I think I like that one better.
tulc(kindness is a sign of being brave)
If wishes were horses then beggars would ride... 
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Blemonds said:
Thomas Gray said:
You do realize that you are quoting a ...
... homosexual!, don't you?
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Do you have something against homosexuals?Cliche Guevara said:You do realize that you are quoting a ...
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Yeah, man. I'm a closet homophobe. I'm in the closet because I defend GLBT rights in society. But you've revealed the truth about me, Blemonds. You da man.
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You seem conflicted, directly contradicting yourself. Did I not make my question clear?Cliche Guevara said:
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I'm not conflicted at all, I was being sarcastic.
But anyway, I'm tired of this silly dance now. It's been fun, but now I need to go be productive.
Cha-cha-cha!
But anyway, I'm tired of this silly dance now. It's been fun, but now I need to go be productive.
Cha-cha-cha!
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I guess we'll never know th truthCliche Guevara said:I'm not conflicted at all, I was being sarcastic.
But anyway, I'm tired of this silly dance now. It's been fun, but now I need to go be productive.
Cha-cha-cha!
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