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Featured Does anyone else Hate Christian Contempory Pop Rock type of music ?

Discussion in 'Denomination Specific Theology' started by Hazel D. Wykes, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to compare the ways of the Kingdom with the ideals of man in the lyrics when the band is raking it in.
     
  2. Deidre32

    Deidre32 Follow Thy Heart

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    I like some of it.
     
  3. usexpat97

    usexpat97 kewlness

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    Here is Baba Yetu. One of my favorite songs of all time. It's neither contemporary nor traditional; it's Swahili. It is its own thing.

     
  4. All4Christ

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    I prefer the older ancient hymnography. Sometimes there may be newer settings (with certain characteristics remaining across all settings), but the words remain the same for thousands of years. They stand the test of time and become tools to both teach and worship. Scripture is brought to life through the music and theology is taught through the words we sing. This type of music was attractive to me when I was in college, so not all young people are attracted to contemporary Christian music. It is heavenly imho.

    For all types of music sung in churches, across all churches, I believe theology rich music is best. We learn from what we hear and what we say. Music to praise God is also important, but it should be about God, not centered around us. Just my 2 cents.
     
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  5. Halbhh

    Halbhh The wonder and awe of His Creation! Supporter

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    Thanks! I found lyrics

    Baba yetu
    Christopher Tin

    Baba yetu, yetu uliye (Our, our Father who are)
    Mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina (In heaven, our, our, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Baba yetu, yetu uliye (Our, our Father who are)
    Mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina (In heaven, our, our, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Utupe leo chakula chetu (Give us today our food)
    Tunachohitaji utusamehe (We need you to forgive us)
    Makosa yetu, hey (Our errors, hey)
    Kama nasi tunavyowasamehe (As we do forgive those)
    Waliotukosea, usitutie (Who did us wrong, don't put us)
    Katika majaribu, lakini (Into trials, but)
    Utuokoe, na yule, milele na milele (Save us, with him, for ever and ever)
    Baba yetu, yetu uliye (Our, our Father who are)
    Mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina (In heaven, our, our, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Baba yetu, yetu uliye (Our, our Father who are)
    Mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina (In heaven, our, our, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Ufalme wako ufike utakalo (Your kingdom come that it be)
    Lifanyike duniani kama mbinguni, amina (done on earth as in heaven, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu uliye (Our, our Father who are)
    Mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina (In heaven, our, our, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Baba yetu, yetu uliye (Our, our Father who are)
    Mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina (In heaven, our, our, amen)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Utupe leo chakula chetu (Give us today our food)
    Tunachohitaji utusamehe (We need you to forgive us)
    Makosa yetu, hey (Our errors, hey)
    Kama nasi tunavyowasamehe (As we do forgive those)
    Waliotukosea, usitutie (Who did us wrong, don't put us)
    Katika majaribu, lakini (Into trials, but)
    Utuokoe na yule msiba milele (Save us from this distress for ever)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
    Baba yetu, yetu, uliye (Our, our Father, who are)
    Jina lako litukuzwe (Let's glorify your name)
     
  6. usexpat97

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    Yeah,
    If you don't like this music, you'll need to learn to like it, because these guys are going to be in Heaven with us for a long time (not necessarily referring to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, of course).
     
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  7. Halbhh

    Halbhh The wonder and awe of His Creation! Supporter

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    Praise the Lord God Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth!

    1 Praise the LORD!
    Praise the LORD, O my soul!
    2 I will praise the LORD as long as I live;
    I will sing praises to my God while I have my being.

    3 Put not your trust in princes,
    in a son of man, in whom there is no salvation.
    4 When his breath departs, he returns to the earth;
    on that very day his plans perish.

    5 Blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
    whose hope is in the LORD his God,
    6 who made heaven and earth,
    the sea, and all that is in them,
    who keeps faith forever;
    7 who executes justice for the oppressed,
    who gives food to the hungry.

    The LORD sets the prisoners free;
    8 the LORD opens the eyes of the blind.
    The LORD lifts up those who are bowed down;
    the LORD loves the righteous.
    9 The LORD watches over the sojourners;
    he upholds the widow and the fatherless,
    but the way of the wicked he brings to ruin.

    10 The LORD will reign forever,
    your God, O Zion, to all generations.
    Praise the LORD!

    Psalm 146 ESV
     
  8. ☦Marius☦

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  9. Oscarr

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    I enjoy rock and roll as well, and it is the music that gets my foot tapping. When I was teaching elementary school, I used to do Elvis impersonations and had a lot of fun. 10 years later I met a pupil (now 20 years old) who didn't remember anything I taught him, but he remembered the Elvis impersonations and how much he enjoyed them! (What does that say about my teaching??)

    When I teach the guitar, I use 50s rock and roll songs to extend their skills.

    I went to a Seekers concert in Auckland a couple of years ago and enjoyed every minute of it, but it was for entertainment.

    My daughter likes Queens of the Stone Age. I tell her that it is all head-banging stuff to me designed to give one a migraine! I have a local FM stations that plays 50s-80s music which I enjoy as I drive along, but when my daughter comes home for a weekend, she changes the radio to the head banging stuff. But that's what she enjoys.

    But there is a vast difference to listening to a range of music for leisure and relaxation, and the type of music we use for worshiping God. We go to church to worship God and hear the word preached, not to be entertained. But there are many churches where the congregation sits passive and views the "performance" from the front, and so there is an entertainment aspect to churches like that. But in churches where 1 Corinthians 14:26 is the rule of practice, the entertainment factor diminishes as every member shares what God has given him or her for the building up of the church.
     
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    When my church didn't have a pianist for a while, I used Youtube video clips of the Church of God singing well-known hymns. The way they sang them was really worshipful, fun and faith-building. I don't know what the staunch Presbyterian old ladies thought about them, but we had fun singing along with those video clips.
     
  11. timothyu

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    Judith Durham of the Seekers..
     
  12. Oscarr

    Oscarr Senior Veteran Supporter

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    I have several CDs of Ralph Stanley which I play in my car while driving. They are great! I learned to play six chords on the banjo (I am a guitarist of 50yrs) and have played Ralph Stanley songs in church.
     
  13. Oscarr

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    The interesting thing about Charles Wesley when he went looking for music to put to his hymns (and his hymns were the contemporary songs of his time), is that he found the traditional church music of his time boring, so we went around all the taverns and listened to their music, and used it for his hymns. He said, "Why should the devil have all the best tunes?"
     
  14. usexpat97

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    If you put Lady Gaga to hymns, though, you might be pushing it.

    "Ra, ra, God God God
    Ra ra, God God God..."
     
  15. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    Only if she was dressed as a peacock apostle.
     
  16. Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

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  17. WolfGate

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    And that is a problem when it happens for sure. When it happens it is a problem of leadership though, not music style. My prior church we worked hard to prevent that from occurring, even though we played mostly contemporary praise and worship songs. There are clear ways to do that. Don't turn lights down. Keep volume at a level where the congregation can hear themselves singing. Lead by example - everyone on stage is singing even if only one or two are mic'd for part of the song. Select songs that are about praising God, focused on Him and directly tie to scripture. There is so much music out there it can be done without any trouble.
     
  18. Oscarr

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    Having a music ministry to lead church singing is Scriptural. We see that in the Old Testament. Also, the whole range of musical instruments of the time was used as well - including cymbals! Traditionally, it were choirs which led the singing in churches; so, having a music group to lead church singing is good and enhances the church service.

    But it should support the service, not dominate it. There is nothing wrong with having electric guitars, drums, trumpets, and other musical instruments, but when in some churches they rank up the volume so loud that you can't hear yourself think, then that dominates the service in such a way that it can hinder what the Holy Spirit wants to do; especially during the altar call when people come up for prayer - and there needs to be a much quieter atmosphere for prayer and ministry. But when the music is going full volume and the music leader is yelling full bore through the microphone during that time, I think the Holy Spirit gets a headache and goes for His life out of that cacophony of noise!!!
     
  19. WolfGate

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    Wasn't meaning to be snarky but reading back I understand it does read that way. So I apologize. My brain was thinking across several other threads as well, but you would have had to be in my head to see the connections.

    For what it's worth, we saw Crowder a couple of weeks ago. He ended his set with the song you posted - quite a bit of fun.
     
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    A good guideline for music in corporate worship:
    • If an atheist, Muslim, Buddhist, Jew, Mormon, and Jehovah's Witness can listen to the song and not feel offended, it isn't a Christian song.
    • If it fits the criteria that determines it to be a Christian song, but the song is focused more on ourselves and our feelings, it is not to be used for corporate worship.
     
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