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Featured Does anyone else Hate Christian Contempory Pop Rock type of music ?

Discussion in 'Denomination Specific Theology' started by Hazel D. Wykes, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. thecolorsblend

    thecolorsblend If God is your Father, who is your Mother?

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    Put another way, the only difference between the Oriental Christian groups and Gregorian chant (apart from language) is the choice of melody they use. Because they're saying essentially the same things, wouldn't you agree?
     
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  2. Halbhh

    Halbhh The wonder and awe of His Creation! Supporter

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    From a sister. What a nice sound!
     
  4. timothyu

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    Well then the band or whatever didn't do their part in hyping the audience to hear the pastor in a different light where they believe him to be motivational due to left over adrenalin. It's all about showmanship you know but hardly substitute for good preaching.:)
     
  5. timothyu

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    Formula music, like country and American 'pop'. No Dick Clark type American Bandpulpit yet.
     
  6. timothyu

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    Well it is hard to spy on radio listeners.
     
  7. Halbhh

    Halbhh The wonder and awe of His Creation! Supporter

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    Yep, I have to change the radio station pretty often if I listen to radio, because it seems I'm hearing about 1 good song of 5 or 7 often, though occasionally you can get 2 in a row. Let me testify to you that traditional services have a higher hit rate, because they use Greatest Hits from centuries, but more than once I have had the service where every traditional song was just a chore, and also services where every traditional song was a favorite, and I thought: "why can't it be like this every time." But then I repented.
     
  8. timothyu

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    Jesus rap and religious tattoos?
     
  9. timothyu

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    Think about in Jesus' day. There were large crowds who heard the Gospel of the Kingdom and either got it or they didn't, but there were no warm up bands like the Water Walking Twelve to hype the Lord, no profitable commercialization and consumerism, and above all no need to go back every week to hear the message.

    Turn it back into a human institution and they then must also rely on all the gimmicks to keep people loyal used by every institution of man since the beginning... be it commercials on tv, firing up the crowds at government rallies, or extolling choreographed Godmania to keep the masses under human control Is the Kingdom of God about manipulation and hype?
     
  10. WolfGate

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  11. usexpat97

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    Some of the most amazing Christian music is African. Completely different from either contemporary or hymns. Performed by saved Christians who have nothing, are really good neighbors, and are really happy. "Baba Yetu" is one of my favorite songs of all time, and it is the Lord's Prayer. Done their way, of course.
     
  12. thesunisout

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    Hi there,

    I would just like to encourage you with this, that although you have been christened and baptized as a baby, there is a faith that the Lord desires from us, a faith in His Son and the salvation that Jesus brings. When that becomes alive in you, and it transforms you, this is the time when Jesus calls us to baptism. When we have been inwardly changed and transformed by the power of God. When you can say you have been born again and confess Christ, you are ready to be baptized in water
     
  13. RDKirk

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    What they sing about will also reflect their local experiences with the Lord, as well.

    For instance, within the US back in the 50s and 60s, "Onward Christian Soldiers" wasn't a popular hymn in black churches, because "marching as to war" wasn't a sympathetic concept for black people at that time. "Onward Christian Soldiers" comes out of the experience of being the social top dog, not being under oppression.

    OTOH, "Leaning on the Everlasting Arms" was quite popular.
     
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  14. Gracia Singh

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    So.... many, many Christians get a lot of if not most of their theological information through contemporary Christian music these days. This is what I have found after talking to quite a few co-workers. Reading the Bible, reading Christian books, prayer time, listening to sermons, don't get as much time as KLOVE.

    So the theological content / implications of these songs is really important. What many, many friends often come away with is an impression that how we live doesn't matter because God loves us so much, sin is irrelevant because it's all about forgiveness and grace, and that emotional experiences fuel / guide / inform our Christian walk. Is that a balanced, healthy, true theology?
     
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  15. RDKirk

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    For sure, "Greatest Hits From the Centuries" is certainly part of why so many selections from hymnals are favorites. If a choir director were to locate a hymnal used 150 years ago and try to introduce those particular songs that were never used again...he'd find opposition to that, too. There were reasons those were never used again.

    A big problem with modern music of all genres is that we expect musicians to constantly grind out new work--about a new song every month (an album of 10-12 songs every year) over the musician's entire career is the expectation.

    Mozart wasn't that prolific. None of the great hymnists was that prolific. Our expectation is absurd.

    If we as the Body of Christ could ratchet that expectation back to, say, one great song a year and still support our members who have the gift of exhortation to write songs, we'd see a better product out of them.
     
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  16. RDKirk

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    We spent several years as members of a little church in rural Maryland. The other members were retired farmers--not only were we the only non-white family, I was the only person besides the pastor still earning a wage.

    They used "old time gospel bluegrass."

    It was merely different, not better.
     
  17. WolfGate

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    Yep. Even in the case of ones that were prolific, only a small percentage stood the test of time. Charles Wesley is credited with roughly 4,400 hymns and lyrics. Most are totally unsung today - generalizing but mainly because the best remain and the others weren't used. Another absurd expectation is to demand that every song a modern writer produces has to be excellent or there is something wrong with them as a writer and artist. Many songs simply will not be.

    Charles Wesley’s Published Verse | Duke Divinity School
     
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  18. Tolkien R.R.J

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    I hope you noticed i never said crowder as a whole and dont mind him once in awhile especially outside of church. He did a great remake of the music i like such as i saw the light. Thus that song alone as a single example did i give. The assumptions on this thread run deep.
     
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    I must disagree. It would indeed be better, imo of course.
     
  20. Halbhh

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    Was trying to search one up. While I have an already interesting one (which words I can't understand of course), I was wondering if you have a version to post?
     
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