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Featured Does anyone else Hate Christian Contempory Pop Rock type of music ?

Discussion in 'Denomination Specific Theology' started by Hazel D. Wykes, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. Cis.jd

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  2. Cis.jd

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    There is nothing wrong with it. As long as the intent is genuine. We are in a world in where the world is influenced by the most vile forms of content in music and it is a strong influence to modern day society, especially the youth. Having God being preached in an artform that is more accepted and attractive to the youth now is a good thing. Some christians need to lighten up and stop thinking that God considers everything that you don't like a sin. No one is going to hell for liking or making this form of gospel music.
     
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  3. timothyu

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    Unless they've turned it into a den of thieves
     
  4. Cis.jd

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    Yes. But good thing negative accusations are normally from fundamentalists who equate anything they dislike to be associated with sin, satan, evil, etc.
     
  5. RDKirk

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    How does that work?
     
  6. ViaCrucis

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    I think we need to make a distinction between sacred music for use in church and music produced by Christians for Christians (or a general audience even).

    There are musicians and bands who are Christians and produce music I enjoy because I find it aesthetically pleasing and interesting, but would never want it as part of the Divine Service as it simply doesn't belong there.

    The Christian produced music I do enjoy I enjoy for many of the same reasons I enjoy "secular" music--because it is aesthetically pleasing and interesting. Not because it is "Christian".

    I also hold sacred music to a much higher standard to, let's call it "listening music", based on the principle of Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi--the law of prayer is the law of belief. Sacred music serves a deep theological purpose in the Service as part of the overall Christian leitourgia, what we are doing together as God's people assembled to receive God's Word and Sacrament.

    A major flaw occurs when we start to think that "Christian music" is somehow a kind of holy substitute for "normal music" and that we are supposed to be in some kind of weird cloistered subculture with our Christian-branded music, clothes, and various paraphernalia.

    So to that end do I have a problem with rock music produced by Christians? Of course not. But then I like various kinds of rock music, among many other musical genres.

    But I don't think it has any more place as use as sacred music in church than I do "secular" popular styles of music.

    Having said that I don't have a problem with Christian-produced rock music--in principle--I do think there are plenty of valid criticisms to be had about CCM and its industry as a whole, and with the kind of ethos is promotes; e.g. the cloistered "Christian" subculture I mentioned above. I also think other valid criticisms are that frequently the music simply isn't that good, and the substance can also be deeply lacking if not just plain bad--especially if used theologically. But that's something that needs to be critiqued and analyzed on a case-by-case basis. I think the sharpest points of this critique go to so-called "praise and worship" music, which tends to be theologically shallow, emotionally manipulative, and driven by consumerist tendencies, but billed as sacred music anyway.

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  7. Halbhh

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    That's interesting. In our Lutheran church our contemporary music I had previously thought very conservative (and of course it makes sense now), and wondered why didn't they play some other CCM I enjoy. Any case, years later, now, we do use some songs I've posted here, and post #179 on the previous page talks about 2 of them, how they are good for us because of their messages -- we have these occasionally in our contemporary services in our Lutheran church, and they are very good in their messages and aid I think. But I'm not at all suggesting they should be substituted into a high service. :) I tend to personally love Gregorian chant, but also I'd hesitate to substitute that in either. There's yet a 3rd kind of music in the Lutheran context -- the song often used in baptisms or confirmations, music like the Lutheran composed (I'm told) Borning Cry. Curious what you think of the contemporary stuff in #179 on the previous page here, and also about Borning Cry?

    Does it belong in a Divine service? Or does it sometimes, only if performed a certain way, say with only piano or organ, but never guitar? (??)
     
  8. timothyu

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    What about black gospel music? Usually a lot of talented voices there also.
     
  9. Knee V

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    In short, and to simply answer the OP directly, I can tolerate very little of it. I find the overwhelmingly vast majority of it to be sappy and disengenuous, as well as derivative and musically shallow.

    I love music and listen to music often. Most of the music I listen to would be considered "folk music" of one kind or another. I particularly love Red Dirt and Blue Grass. A great deal of the music produced in those genre have a folk Christian element to them, so I am by no means opposed to listening to "Christian music" generally speaking. I just hate bad music.
     
  10. Halbhh

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    It sounds possible you might be overlapping some to me based on your short post (guessing). There are 3 groups in this thread that may be pleasant for you possibly, one or even 2--All Sons And Daughters has a bluegrass sound sometimes, and Shane and Shane has some very fine lyrics.


    Light Glorious Light (All Sons and Daughters)
     
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