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A question, then. Why pick THIS particular part of Scripture to worry about? Do you think YOU are going to a church that practices the dogmas of demons? Are there not other planks in your eye that need cleaning out first, before trying to clean the speck out of others?
Just asking...
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained." 1 Timothy 4:1-6
If the Bible says that forbidding to marry and commanding that people "abstain" from meats are "doctrines of devils", why do so many Christians accept these restrictions (often commanded and imposed by church leadership) as actually from God Himself?
Thoughts?
This is a kind of doctrine of demons -
not that it specifically is, but it is used to oppose God's Word instead of to obey God's Word.
We don't obey God's Word in order to be saved. We obey JOYOUSLY and GLADLY and TOTALLY WILLINGLY because we are GOD'S CHILDREN BORN AGAIN BY HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!
as written throughout His Word.
Lots of thoughts here.
"Latter times" of what? I see "latter" as after Christs appearance. Not "end of days".
I could easily apply the catholic ideology to that statement. Priests don't marry, eat fish only on fridays, seduced by physical power of fear, etc.
But it goes beyond that. It is a return to the physical tenet (and law) of the OT. The "devils" want us to love (and obey) fleshly things, as they are of the "God of this world. It is in direct conflict of the God of spirit, the Father.
Man is seduced by love of physical (mammon) while seeking love of spirit (God the Father). You cannot serve two masters, and the verse is saying that man will eventually find a compromise to serve both.
This has already happened, and continues today.
Matthew:
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
So who are these people? The ones who think they were Christian, yet never followed Christ.
Gospel of Philip:
If one goes down into the water and comes up without having received anything, and says "I am a Christian," he has borrowed the name at interest. But if he receives the Holy Spirit, he has the name as a gift. He who has received a gift does not have to give it back, but of him who has borrowed it at interest, payment is demanded. This is the way it happens to one when he experiences a mystery.
Whether someone personally chooses and/or is convicted by God to do such things is between them and the Lord. When it is imposed upon them by others, however, that is another matter.
The point is in making religious demands. That does not equate to health suggestions made by the American Cancer Association.
The number 1 cause of death is heart disease. If we, as christians, know this, and know that a western diet high in animal protein is one of the main contributors to heart disease, should we advise people to abstain from meat as our bodies are Gods temple? Or would that be of the devil?
The number 1 cause of death is heart disease. If we, as christians, know this, and know that a western diet high in animal protein is one of the main contributors to heart disease, should we advise people to abstain from meat as our bodies are Gods temple? Or would that be of the devil?
People don't really listen to commands or requirements, hence the old covenant ended.There is a huge difference between "advising" someone of something and commanding or requiring that they do so. (Especially in regards to their faith and relationship with God)
You are incorrect if you think this is about me trying to pick on other people or insult anyone.
People don't really listen to commands or requirements, hence the old covenant ended.
So if you know eating a diet high in meat is not good for you and is actually hurting your health, would you still eat it anyway, even though your body is a temple of God?
No, it was never my intent to ask if you or others were trying to insult other people.
You won't find this in Scripture anywhere. (in context of Salvation, God's Plan, etc )And the Old Covenant didn't end because people wouldn't listen to it, it ended because Jesus perfectly fulfilled all the requirements of it.
As I pointed out , your statement may be in Scripture, but you used it, or tried to , to promote disobedience to God's Word.
Has that now become a "doctrine of God" !?
You won't find this in Scripture anywhere. (in context of Salvation, God's Plan, etc )
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