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Sure thing:
Teach a literal six-day creation as spelled out in Genesis 1 of the King James Bible.
Sure thing:
Teach a literal six-day creation as spelled out in Genesis 1 of the King James Bible.
No.Are you personally open to the idea that those six days may have been to fix up some.... .of the possible damage done by a revolt of one third of the angels led by former Covering Cherub Lucifer?
No.Teach obscurantism, and the gentle art of burying ones head in the sand?
So would I.lesliedellow said:I would steer well clear of any university who had that in its Faculty of Science.
Genesis 1 does not contain one lick of science.
That means you guys can stop begging for evidence.
"You guys" means anyone who asks for evidence.Does "you guys" that include the historians?
No.
When the earth was created on Day One, Lucifer rejoiced.
Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
We can agree about that at least.
Does "you guys" that include the historians? Although they rely mostly upon documentary evidence, which they subject to critical analysis, I think you might find that they too would take some convincing that the overwhelming scientific consensus should simply be ignored.
Carl Cantrell.
"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breathe, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere.. ."
"Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes...."
"Just take a look at any satellite picture of the earth showing heat and you will see that our deserts are the warmest spots on the planet by far. More heat is being generated by just one of the top four or five deserts than by all of our cities combined.... "
"The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave…."
"So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive…."
"Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…"
"We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell)."
"It was not until 1920 that the idea of linking electromagnetism and
gravity resurfaced. At that time a new theory of gravitation had been proposed by Albert Einstein (1879-1955), called the general theory of relativity. It was a replacement of Newton's theory, which had stood unchallenged since 1687. Inspired by Einstein's work, a young German mathematician named Theodore Kaluza was seized by a curious idea. The theory of relativity links space an time together to form a four-dimensional space-time continuum. What would happen, mused Kaluza, if general relativity were formulated in five rather than four dimensions? This is what Kaluza did, and to everyone's astonishment it was discovered that five-dimensional gravity obeys the same laws as
four-dimensional gravity as well as Maxwell's laws for the electromagnetic field. In other words, gravitation and electromagnetism are automatically unified in five dimensions, where electromagnetism is merely a component of gravity!"
The only drawback of the theory concerns the extra dimension. Why
don't we see it? An ingenious answer was provided by Oskar Klein. A
hosepipe viewed from afar looks like a wiggly line, i.e. one- dimensional.
However, on closer inspection it can be seen as a narrow tube. It is, in fact,
two-dimensional, and what was taken to be a point on the line is actually a
little circle going around the tube. In the same way, reasoned Klein, what we normally regard as a point in three dimensional space could in reality be a little circle going around a fourth space dimension. Thus Kaluza's extra
dimension might well exist, but be impossible to detect because it is closed
(circular) and rolled up to a very small circumference. In spite of
these bizarre overtones, it seems probable that in future a "theory of everything" will make use of the idea of unseen higher dimensions."
....
"Although nature manifests four distinct forces, physicists believe that
each may be part of a smaller number of more primitive forces. At high energy, the electromagnetic and weak forces appear to merge into a single "electroweak" force. Some "grand unified theories" suggest that a further amalgamation takes place between the electroweak and strong forces at as yet unattained energies. The most ambitious unification schemes envisage an amalgamation of all four forces into a single "superforce" at ultra-high levels of energy."
( A Theory of Everything" Volume 21 of "The World of Science)
My explanation for that verse would be that Lucifer and his angels originally rejoiced perhaps as long ago as 4.5 billion years or so.....(but it might have been merely millions...... that information is above my Security Clearance Level)....... but then he became predatory by a number of millions of years ago as we see the progression of the dinosaurs into being more and more violent.
I suspect that the shift in the nature of pre-historic animals on earth may have reflected the nature of the shift that Lucifer / Satan and his angels were going through?
That's okay. I was a Radioman in the Navy and had a Top Secret security clearance.My explanation for that verse would be that Lucifer and his angels originally rejoiced perhaps as long ago as 4.5 billion years or so.....(but it might have been merely millions...... that information is above my Security Clearance Level)
Then why was "the anointed cherub that covereth" mentioned as being in the Garden of Eden?DennisTate said:....... but then he became predatory by a number of millions of years ago as we see the progression of the dinosaurs into being more and more violent.
Teach obscurantism, and the gentle art of burying ones head in the sand? I would steer well clear of any university who had that in its Faculty of Science.
But. Satan. Was. Lucifer. At. One. Time.Lucifer. Is. Not. Satan. And. Never. Was.
Lucifer. Is. Not. Satan. And. Never. Was.
I have lost count of how many times I've had to correct people on that who have clearly only read select verses of Isaiah 14 and hold onto preconceived notions.
That's okay. I was a Radioman in the Navy and had a Top Secret security clearance.
Then why was "the anointed cherub that covereth" mentioned as being in the Garden of Eden?
No.You could be right....
Lucifer's name was changed to Satan; and to get God back, he started calling Jehovah, "Yahweh."Dennis Tate said:... but Lucifer is A Satan, not necessarily The Satan.....
Not God's Scripture.Dennis Tate said:Azazel is another important fallen angel / Watcher that is mentioned in scripture.......
God Evolved
Alpha First Beginning
Isaiah 44:6
“This is what the Lord says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
Isaiah 48:12
“Listen to me, Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.
Revelation 1:8
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Revelation 21:6
He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life.
Revelation 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
The proof that God exist is in the fact that spontaneous evolution of life is not possible in this universe. God evolved, then He created. From the Subatomic and the primordial Dark Matter. A type of nothing, because it has no atomic bonds to form anything. God created gravity and gravitons to form the atomic elements of this Universe.
Dark Matter is undifferentiated material which has no atomic bonds, this would make it of no particular substance. In other words, it is Nothing. And if you are willing to accept it, it is primordial, and God's store house for creating the universe from "Nothing."
Dark Matter is accepted by the mainstream scientific community. The existence and properties of dark matter are inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, on radiation, and on the large-scale structure of the universe. The presence of dark matter in the universe, including gravitational lensing of background objects by galaxy clusters such as the Bullet Cluster, the temperature distribution of hot gas in galaxies and clusters of galaxies and, more recently, the pattern of anisotropies in the cosmic microwave background.
According to cosmologists, dark matter is composed primarily of a not yet characterized type of subatomic particle.
The belief that God created from nothing comes from the Ramban comments on Genesis: www.sefaria.org/Ramban_on_Genesis.1.1?lang=en&layout=lines&sidebarLang=all
Dark Matter: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
The missing links are missing because life did not evolve in this Universe.
Isaiah 43:10. "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD (Yahwah), "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god formed, nor will there be one after me.
The key is the word "formed." Absolutely anything that has no beginning does not exist. God says that He is the FIRST AND THE LAST. Therefore He Began. That is why His name means "Life Began."
Astronomers detect dark matter though the effect of its gravity on the path that light takes as it crosses the Universe. As light travels through a region of dark matter, its path gets distorted by gravity. Instead of taking a straight line, the light is bent back and forth depending on how much dark matter is passes through.
Astronomers can map out regions of dark matter in the sky just by looking at the distortions in the light, and then working backwards to figure out how much intervening dark matter would need to be there to cause it.
After the creation of the Universe the Earth was later created by God. Before there was a firmament it was a formless body of water. The bible does not state how much time had passed before the creation of the Earth.
God says that no god formed before Him. He also states that none will form after Him, meaning that the element to the forming is no longer available. The word "form" would not have been used if it were not a condition.
What book of Adam and Eve?The Book of Adam and Eve ...
No.
Lucifer's name was changed to Satan; and to get God back, he started calling Jehovah, "Yahweh."
Not God's Scripture.
What book of Adam and Eve?
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