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Do we win every battle?

Samrod

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Is it biblical that we are supposed to win every battle in this life?

I thought we Christians were supposed to expect trials and tribulations in the world. A Christian is expected to undergo suffering. It's only by the last day will all accounts be settled. Am I not correct?

I feel that all these teachings about winning in all circumstances is just happy fluff intended for the ears.
 

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Is it biblical that we are supposed to win every battle in this life?

I thought we Christians were supposed to expect trials and tribulations in the world. A Christian is expected to undergo suffering. It's only by the last day will all accounts be settled. Am I not correct?

I feel that all these teachings about winning in all circumstances is just happy fluff intended for the ears.

Our victory, being in Christ, is that He has overcome the world,

"In this world you will have trouble, but take heart, I have overcome the world."

This life is a struggle, caught between the old man and the new. It's not going to be a bed of rose pedals. Those who argue that we can have "victorious living" or that with faith we will always succeed in our tasks in this life are simply promoting a lot of hot air.

There is no easiness in following Jesus, it's hard. Christ invites us to come and be with Him and to die.

So yes, the "your best life now" and prosperity teaching is all nonsense. We may find ourselves destitute, living on the street with rags for clothing with empty bellies and a parched tongue. Not because we have been faithless, but simply because that's life. We aren't going to always succeed, we're going to fail, we're going to fall; we may not get that job promotion, we may not get hired at that next interview, I may lose my job next week, I may take a pay cut, I may get evicted, I may have financial trouble. I may have relationship trouble, my girlfriend may dump me, my wife may leave me, my children may resent me or turn away from me. My family may reject me. My friends may forsake me.

That's life.

Jesus never said we'd have a better life by being His disciple, only that it's worth it, really and honestly and truly worth it.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Is it biblical that we are supposed to win every battle in this life?

I thought we Christians were supposed to expect trials and tribulations in the world. A Christian is expected to undergo suffering. It's only by the last day will all accounts be settled. Am I not correct?

I feel that all these teachings about winning in all circumstances is just happy fluff intended for the ears.
Samrod,

I'm pleased that you have joined us at CF. May your time with us be profitable for you and for us.

Your question is an excellent one, especially in the climate of the contemporary church.

What do you think these verses mean?
2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. 4 And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing (James 1:2-4 NASB).
The term "brethren" includes both men and women. God allows trials in the life of every believer to test what kind of faith we have and to encourage us to endure in the faith. The result of this refining process is that, before God, we will be perfect and complete through the sanctification process.

By the way, we are to "consider it all joy" when we are affected by trials and not to complain to God about them.

This goes against the grain of the health, wealth, prosperity teaching in some churches today.

This same kind of message is also found in 1 Peter 1:6-7. What about Hebrews 11? Weren't these believers subjected to considerable difficulties?

In Christ, Oz
 
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