Do Sabbath Keepers KEEP the Sabbath?

[mmksparbud]

In post #502 you said …"the 7th day is the Sabbath of the Lord---there is no other."

Lev 16:29 speaks of a sabbath of rest as you quoted below.
Lev 16:29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:
Lev 16:30 For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.
Lev 16:31 It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever.

Hebrews 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: {it was: or, the gospel was }
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. {Jesus: that is, Joshua }
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
This refers to the rest alluded to by Moses
De 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

The priesthood of Christ and his apostolic ministers as priests.

32 And Aaron and his sons shall eat the flesh of the ram, and the bread that is in the basket, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
33 And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy.
And as Hebrews says…. we have an alter to eat from and a portion in...….
Heb 13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

I believe this is what Sunday was about for the early Church is the eucharistic assembly by faith in his resurrection As our eternal highpriest.[/QUOTE]

There is only 1 day which God sanctified, hallowed and called His own---the 7th---there is no other. Those others are feast days--which I mentioned in post #519---none of those feast sabbaths are mentioned in the 4th commandment. It doesn't matter what other day anyone wants to celebrate---there is only one 7th day Sabbath of the Lord and it was kept by Jesus and He never changed it. You want to celebrate Sunday for His resurrection---go ahead. Jesus, nor any disciple, ever said--the Sabbath is now on the 1st day of the week instead of the 7th. Unless there is a commandment from Jesus, who wrote the 4th, it stands. No man has the right to change what He wrote.

 

[ralliann]

Hebrews 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: {it was: or, the gospel was }
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. {Jesus: that is, Joshua }
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
This refers to the rest alluded to by Moses
De 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

The priesthood of Christ and his apostolic ministers as priests.

32 And Aaron and his sons shall eat the flesh of the ram, and the bread that is in the basket, by the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
33 And they shall eat those things wherewith the atonement was made, to consecrate and to sanctify them: but a stranger shall not eat thereof, because they are holy.
And as Hebrews says…. we have an alter to eat from and a portion in...….
Heb 13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

I believe this is what Sunday was about for the early Church is the eucharistic assembly by faith in his resurrection As our eternal highpriest.[/QUOTE]

There is only 1 day which God sanctified, hallowed and called His own---the 7th---there is no other. Those others are feast days--which I mentioned in post #519---none of those feast sabbaths are mentioned in the 4th commandment. It doesn't matter what other day anyone wants to celebrate---there is only one 7th day Sabbath of the Lord and it was kept by Jesus and He never changed it. You want to celebrate Sunday for His resurrection---go ahead. Jesus, nor any disciple, ever said--the Sabbath is now on the 1st day of the week instead of the 7th. Unless there is a commandment from Jesus, who wrote the 4th, it stands. No man has the right to change what He wrote.[/QUOTE]
Shadows...….....
Le 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Those "festal Sabbaths" are his as well.

Le 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Le 23:37 These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Reality.....
His priests celebrating his appearing before God as our high priest.
10 There shall no stranger eat of the holy thing: a sojourner of the priest, or an hired servant, shall not eat of the holy thing.
11 But if the priest buy any soul with his money, he shall eat of it, and he that is born in his house: they shall eat of his meat. {with … : Heb. with the purchase of his money }
12 If the priest’s daughter also be married unto a stranger, she may not eat of an offering of the holy things. {a stranger: Heb. a man a stranger }
13 But if the priest’s daughter be a widow, or divorced, and have no child, and is returned unto her father’s house, as in her youth, she shall eat of her father’s meat: but there shall no stranger eat thereof.

 

[ralliann]

There is only 1 day which God sanctified, hallowed and called His own---the 7th---there is no other. Those others are feast days--which I mentioned in post #519---none of those feast sabbaths are mentioned in the 4th commandment. It doesn't matter what other day anyone wants to celebrate---there is only one 7th day Sabbath of the Lord and it was kept by Jesus and He never changed it. You want to celebrate Sunday for His resurrection---go ahead. Jesus, nor any disciple, ever said--the Sabbath is now on the 1st day of the week instead of the 7th. Unless there is a commandment from Jesus, who wrote the 4th, it stands. No man has the right to change what He wrote.

Le 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Its not celebrating a day, but an event. The Lords resurrection to rise into heaven to appear as our high priest on that day.

 

[mmksparbud]

Le 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Its not celebrating a day, but an event. The Lords resurrection to rise into heaven to appear as our high priest on that day.

And has nothing to do with the Sabbath.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The nine commands of the 10 are certainly moral laws and are part of the new law of love that Jesus gave to us in Jn 15:
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Do you believe the Father's and The Son's commandments are different? He said "I and my Father are One". A house divided can not stand. Do you believe that "love God and your neighbor" are new commands?

 

[Bob S]

Do you believe the Father's and The Son's commandments are different?

Hi YHD, Why would Jesus have made the statement in John 15 if the commands the Father gave Jesus were the same ones Jesus gave us?

He said "I and my Father are One". A house divided can not stand.

I fail to understand why the Father's giving Jesus one set of rules and Jesus giving us another would be dividing the house. Can you please explain?

Do you believe that "love God and your neighbor" are new commands?

No, do you? Jesus did give all mankind a new command though. There is nothing like it in all of the Holy Writ. Jesus even called it a new commandment Jn 15:
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

How much does Jesus love us YHD? He laid down His life for sinners like you and me. Are we willing to lay down ours for our fellow man?

 

[Bob S]

Do you believe the Father's and The Son's commandments are different? He said "I and my Father are One". A house divided can not stand.

The commands the Father gave to Jesus and the ones Jesus gave to us are two different issues. How could that divide the house? Why can't you take Jesus at His word? Why take issue with statements that our Savior made. Do you doubt everything written in the Holy writ?

Do you believe that "love God and your neighbor" are new commands?

No, do you?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The commands the Father gave to Jesus and the ones Jesus gave to us are two different issues. How could that divide the house? Why can't you take Jesus at His word? Why take issue with statements that our Savior made. Do you doubt everything written in the Holy writ?

No, do you?

Because YOU say they are different...antinomian...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Hi YHD, Why would Jesus have made the statement in John 15 if the commands the Father gave Jesus were the same ones Jesus gave us?

I fail to understand why the Father's giving Jesus one set of rules and Jesus giving us another would be dividing the house. Can you please explain?

No, do you? Jesus did give all mankind a new command though. There is nothing like it in all of the Holy Writ. Jesus even called it a new commandment Jn 15:
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

How much does Jesus love us YHD? He laid down His life for sinners like you and me. Are we willing to lay down ours for our fellow man?

I see no difference. To love God and your fellow man IS the Torah...you are trying to say Yeshua's commandments are NOT the same as The Father's...if anything, Yeshua made them even stricter...actual adultery vs just thinking about it, etc...Yeshua gave correct interpretation of the Torah

The commands the Father gave to Jesus and the ones Jesus gave to us are two different issues. How could that divide the house?

How are they different?

 

[Shimshon]

Paul also wrote the great words to the Galatians in Gal3:19 where he reiterated that the law ended with the coming of Jesus. 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

There certainly is a lot to ponder and think about my friends. In Matt 5 did Jesus fulfill the law? Paul certainly thought He did. My dictionary indicates that to fulfill means to bring to an end.

And still the Holy one of Israel, our Messiah said this while bringing salvation to the people of Israel.

Luke 21:24
Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

27 And then they (Israel) will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, stand straight and lift up your heads, because your salvation is near!”

He speaks this to Israel. It regards Israel first and foremost. Israel and all attached to her through faith in Yeshua.

There is an end to the exiled, a return of God's promises to the people of Israel.

When God is done working with Israel who he scattered into the nations he will return to gather us back home. When the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled will your kingdoms come to a complete end or do the Gentile nations exist in heaven? Revelation 21:24

You are completely missing the Spirit of God's promises and the message of Messiah.

What happened to the blood of Jesus?

Luke 22
19 And when He had taken matzah and offered the bracha, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you. Do this in memory of Me.” 20 In the same way, He took the cup after the meal, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you.

This was a passover seder btw.

First of all the Law was not given to anyone except the Israelites. The Law didn't concern Gentiles. Jesus came to save the Jews from the ministry of death, the law. Fulfill does not mean "full to the top", You don't fulfill a glass with water. Fulfill means to bring to an end which is exactly what Jesus did on the Cross. He brought the old way to an end and established the new and better way.

Jeremiah 31
32“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days”
—it is a declaration of Adonai—
“I will put My Torah within them.
Yes, I will write it on their heart.e]">[e]
I will be their God
and they will be My people.
33 No longer will each teach his neighbor
or each his brother, saying: ‘Know Adonai,’
for they will all know Me,
from the least of them to the greatest.”
it is a declaration of Adonai.
“For I will forgive their iniquity,
their sin I will remember no more.”f]">[f]

The ministry of the Spirit, the laws that the Spirit is writing upon your heart daily through a living relationship are the commandments of the God of Israel. The law is transformed and the ministry is different. But love is the fullness of the law, not the absence thereof.

Those are your words and are not scriptural.

33 No longer will each teach his neighbor
or each his brother, saying: ‘Know Adonai,’
for they will all know Me,
from the least of them to the greatest.”
it is a declaration of Adonai.

This is the ministry of the Spirit. He has come to the house of Israel, he is writing his laws upon our hearts. He is our God and we are his people, and we know him with an intimate relationship, because he forgives all of our sins and remembers them no more.

The new covenant, the fulfillment of the new covenant, when it comes to its fullness. Will be the restoration of Israel and all the world.

But I'm noticing that your problem is not so much with having a law written upon your heart. It is more concerned with the people of Israel and our identity and who we are in God and how we have been erased and how God has moved past us to get the Kingdom of God to you. These are the teachings of the anti-Semetic church fathers. These are the teachings that come to a mind when one rejects all things Jewish. These are the teachings of the devil. Who seeks to divide the Kingdom of God, to divide and conquer. God loves Israel with all his heart. God has made promises to Israel through Abraham. The same Abraham that you attach yourself to. This is what is meant by a divided house.

I understand my connection to the gentiles and to the nations and to you. I know who I am in Messiah. But you to not appear to understand your connection to Israel. And sadly, you have a very skewed understanding of our Messiah and his ministry of reconciliation.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

But I'm noticing that your problem is not so much with having a law written upon your heart. It is more concerned with the people of Israel and our identity and who we are in God and how we have been erased and how God has moved past us to get the Kingdom of God to you.

But you to not appear to understand your connection to Israel. And sadly, you have a very skewed understanding of our Messiah and his ministry of reconciliation.

Maybe they do not understand Romans 11

 

[mmksparbud]

The commands the Father gave to Jesus and the ones Jesus gave to us are two different issues. How could that divide the house? Why can't you take Jesus at His word? Why take issue with statements that our Savior made. Do you doubt everything written in the Holy writ?

No, do you?

JESUS WAS QUOTING THE OT---as He often did And it was Jesus that created the earth and sanctified the Sabbath at creation.

Deu_10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deu_11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,
Deu_13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deu_26:16 This day the LORD thy God hath commanded thee to do these statutes and judgments: thou shalt therefore keep and do them with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.

 

[ralliann]

And has nothing to do with the Sabbath.

His feasts are as you also have quoted, Sabbaths.
1 Cor 5: 7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: {is sacrificed: or, is slain } 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. {the feast: or, holyday } That is why it begins at Passover. Not just a seventh day Sabbath.
These themes in my opinion (I am not Catholic) have to do with the priesthood and those of his household eating those things wherewith atonement was made.....

Joh 18:28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the Passover.

This IMO is what scripture speaks of concerning the goat added for sin during the feast days (15th- 21st). Josephus tells us that these were intended for a feast for the priests on everyone of those days.
Of course the 15th day is the first day of the week of unleavened bread....

Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD’S passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

I believe that is what the early apostolic Ekklesia was focused upon. As is stated here
115 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.
16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

This is a quote from your own post # 507
Canon XXIX: “Christians must not Judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord’s Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.” (Percival Translation).

There is no changing of the Sabbath day of Judaism above. It is called the Sabbath still. So I agree with the other posters in here that they did not change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. But the Lord's day is the Christian Ekklesia Sabbath ( festal Sabbath). Resting in his completed work as our high priest. IMO, The Ekklesia originally wanted to keep intact the festal nature of the Lords Passover Sacrifice as it relates to the feasts as eaten by/from the priests ministerial duties concerning sin offerings. His household would eat some of these. All else were "strangers" from eating of it.

 

[mmksparbud]

This is a quote from your own post # 507
Canon XXIX: “Christians must not Judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord’s Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.” (Percival Translation).

They had to state this as all 1st Christians kept the 7th day. Catholicism started slowly and they insisted on doing away with the 7th day Sabbath and changed it to Sunday. It was they that called it the Lord's day. God called the 7th day His day. Sunday is man's day, not the Lord's. Catholicism became the most powerful and dominate of the Christian churches as they had the power of Rome behind them. God never changed the day.

 

[ralliann]

They had to state this as all 1st Christians kept the 7th day.

. No, not all. Only Jews and others while in their land. heck, if I visited Israel today, and they enforced the Sabbath rest. I would comply while there.

Catholicism started slowly and they insisted on doing away with the 7th day Sabbath and changed it to Sunday.

You are still not addressing the Lord's supper and the priestly themes. Which defiled the Sabbath and were not guilty.

It was they that called it the Lord's day. God called the 7th day His day. Sunday is man's day, not the Lord's. Catholicism became the most powerful and dominate of the Christian churches as they had the power of Rome behind them. God never changed the day.

Again I have attempted a dialogue but so far you have ignored the priestly issues of the holy feast days.
Shalom.

 

[mmksparbud]

. No, not all. Only Jews and others while in their land. heck, if I visited Israel today, and they enforced the Sabbath rest. I would comply while there.
You are still not addressing the Lord's supper and the priestly themes. Which defiled the Sabbath and were not guilty.

Again I have attempted a dialogue but so far you have ignored the priestly issues of the holy feast days.
Shalom.

No, not Jews. Christians. You have not checked out history books.

The Lord's supper. nor any other supper, nor any priestly duties have a bearing on the 7th day Sabbath. If I am ignoring it, it is because there is no connection. The Sabbath is a commandment---period. It was instituted at creation by Jesus Himself and none but Him can change it. Simple.

 

[ralliann]

No, not Jews. Christians. You have not checked out history books.

The Lord's supper. nor any other supper, nor any priestly duties have a bearing on the 7th day Sabbath. If I am ignoring it, it is because there is no connection. The Sabbath is a commandment---period. It was instituted at creation by Jesus Himself and none but Him can change it. Simple.

You gave it bearing in bringing up quotes from the early Church. I simply brought the distinction behind the argument. I think we do each other a disservice when we do not look at the foundational difference between what the early Churches focus and foundation was, The eucharistic assembly of the priesthood of Christ. To overlook that is not IMO really addressing the issues as they really are. That is not benefitial, and unavoidable. It is perhaps avoidable in some protestant Churches, but not those with Priests bringing the central theme of sacrifice and priestly function.
As for me, I have been looking at these things to attempt to find an assembly I can be a member of.

 

[mmksparbud]

You gave it bearing in bringing up quotes from the early Church. I simply brought the distinction behind the argument. I think we do each other a disservice when we do not look at the foundational difference between what the early Churches focus and foundation was, The eucharistic assembly of the priesthood of Christ. To overlook that is not IMO really addressing the issues as they really are. That is not benefitial, and unavoidable. It is perhaps avoidable in some protestant Churches, but not those with Priests bringing the central theme of sacrifice and priestly function.
As for me, I have been looking at these things to attempt to find an assembly I can be a member of.

It is difficult for me to follow about priests for we do not have any. I was never brought up with a priesthood. There were a few times I went to a Catholic church when I was a child and staying with a Catholic family. That is all I know. I loved the smell of incense, though!
All my research on the early post apostolic church, say that they kept the Sabbath and they did not have a priesthood. Priesthoods name Peter as the first Pope, though nothing in the bible calls him anything but an apostle. It was Paul, not Peter, that was commissioned to the Gentiles. Peter was to go to the circumcision

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.


It was not Peter that founded the church in Rome but Paul:

Rom 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:

The Catholic church claims Peter was the founder of the Roman church--it was Paul. He did not want to build a church based upon another man' foundation. Anyone who claims Peter as their 1st Pope has not read the bible very closely.

There is no priesthood mentioned in the bible. Not one apostle or first Christian is called a priest. The only thing mentioned is that we are all kings and priests of God. And by that, it is meant that we are all important to God. Kings and priests were the highest persons in authority---it really means we are all of the highest worth to God.

 

[ralliann]

It is difficult for me to follow about priests for we do not have any. I was never brought up with a priesthood.

What is Christs priesthood to you then? And what of communion or the Lord's supper in your Church.

There were a few times I went to a Catholic church when I was a child and staying with a Catholic family. That is all I know. I loved the smell of incense, though!

All the historical Churches seem to have this.

All my research on the early post apostolic church, say that they kept the Sabbath and they did not have a priesthood.

Where is your research from?

Priesthoods name Peter as the first Pope, though nothing in the bible calls him anything but an apostle. It was Paul, not Peter, that was commissioned to the Gentiles. Peter was to go to the circumcision

All the twelve were Royal priests in Christ
Mt 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles
Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

But first it was Peter
Ac 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

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Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Interesting thatPaul's use of the term offering up of the nations (Gentiles) is similar in my opinion to the offering up of the Levites.
Numb 8:9 And thou shalt bring the Levites before the tabernacle of the congregation: and thou shalt gather the whole assembly of the children of Israel together:
10 And thou shalt bring the Levites before the LORD: and the children of Israel shall put their hands upon the Levites:
11 And Aaron shall offer the Levites before the LORD for an offering of the children of Israel, that they may execute the service of the LORD.


Instead of all the firstborn...…

12 And the Levites shall lay their hands upon the heads of the bullocks: and thou shalt offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, unto the LORD, to make an atonement for the Levites.
13 And thou shalt set the Levites before Aaron, and before his sons, and offer them for an offering unto the LORD.
14 Thus shalt thou separate the Levites from among the children of Israel: and the Levites shall be mine.
15 And after that shall the Levites go in to do the service of the tabernacle of the congregation: and thou shalt cleanse them, and offer them for an offering.
16 For they are wholly given unto me from among the children of Israel; instead of such as open every womb, even instead of the firstborn of all the children of Israel, have I taken them unto me.
17 For all the firstborn of the children of Israel are mine, both man and beast: on the day that I smote every firstborn in the land of Egypt I sanctified them for myself.
18 And I have taken the Levites for all the firstborn of the children of Israel.

Taking even from the nations for Levites.....

Isa 66:18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.
20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. {litters: or, coaches }
21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.


Peter had to be shown not to call any man unclean That Christ had made Clean.


Just some of my thoughts on this subject.

 

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What is Christs priesthood to you then? And what of communion or the Lord's supper in your Church.

All the historical Churches seem to have this.

Where is your research from?

All the twelve were Royal priests in Christ
Mt 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

But first it was Peter
Ac 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

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Interesting thatPaul's use of the term offering up of the nations (Gentiles) is similar in my opinion to the offering up of the Levites.
Numb 8:9 And thou shalt bring the Levites before the tabernacle of the congregation: and thou shalt gather the whole assembly of the children of Israel together:
10 And thou shalt bring the Levites before the LORD: and the children of Israel shall put their hands upon the Levites:
11 And Aaron shall offer the Levites before the LORD for an offering of the children of Israel, that they may execute the service of the LORD.

We have communion service about every 3 months along with the washing of feet.

Instead of all the firstborn...…

12 And the Levites shall lay their hands upon the heads of the bullocks: and thou shalt offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, unto the LORD, to make an atonement for the Levites.
13 And thou shalt set the Levites before Aaron, and before his sons, and offer them for an offering unto the LORD.
14 Thus shalt thou separate the Levites from among the children of Israel: and the Levites shall be mine.
15 And after that shall the Levites go in to do the service of the tabernacle of the congregation: and thou shalt cleanse them, and offer them for an offering.
16 For they are wholly given unto me from among the children of Israel; instead of such as open every womb, even instead of the firstborn of all the children of Israel, have I taken them unto me.
17 For all the firstborn of the children of Israel are mine, both man and beast: on the day that I smote every firstborn in the land of Egypt I sanctified them for myself.
18 And I have taken the Levites for all the firstborn of the children of Israel.

Taking even from the nations for Levites.....

Isa 66:18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.
19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.
20 And they shall bring all your brethren for an offering unto the LORD out of all nations upon horses, and in chariots, and in litters, and upon mules, and upon swift beasts, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, saith the LORD, as the children of Israel bring an offering in a clean vessel into the house of the LORD. {litters: or, coaches }
21 And I will also take of them for priests and for Levites, saith the LORD.


Peter had to be shown not to call any man unclean That Christ had made Clean.


Just some of my thoughts on this subject.

Jesus Christ is now our High Priest. Hebrews states what He is doing. He is pleading the case of His followers before God covering those written in the book of life with His blood. When He is done,

Rev_16:17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev_21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

At that point everyone will have made their decisions---no changing their minds after that:

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

We have communion service along with the foot washing.


I have researched books before there was an internet---today it is much easier--and way faster. I research old books not written by my denomination--for we did not exist until 1866. I have read Catholic, Mormon, Christian Science, not much on Oriental orthodox, but you name it, I've probably researched it. Years ago, before coming back to God, I had started to get into the occult and had just bought my deck of Tarot cards. Tossed those puppies!

Peter is not talking to the 12 only:

1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

There is no record of Peter having been in Rome. Paul set up the church there.