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That's certainly my take on it. But then, I'm only an Anglican, a "Bible-hating, Christ-denying commie," part of the atheistic conspiracy against Christianity.
And that passage you quoted was not part of the Commandments as spoken by God in any case. It was a parenthetical insertion by the transcriber. You can tell by the voicing.They are one and the same.
And I know what you're getting at.
Moses threw the first set down and they broke.
And the second set is not even close:They are one and the same.
And I know what you're getting at.
Moses threw the first set down and they broke.
For quite a while I have felt that creationists have a lot of gall for telling God how he had to have made this world.
That's the view of conservative Evangelical Protestants--creationists--towards any Christian who doesn't "believe the Bible." If you live around them you get bullying and even violent treatment as a bonus.Is that your view of yourself or the worlds view?
Or we could do what scientists do. Look at the evidence. If God made the world the world is a valid source to tell us how he made it. In fact there are Christians that are scientists that do that:I have no idea how he did it, he didn't share that with me maybe he shared it with others lol
Or we could do what scientists do. Look at the evidence. If God made the world the world is a valid source to tell us how he made it. In fact there are Christians that are scientists that do that:
BioLogos - God's Word. God's World.
And that passage you quoted was not part of the Commandments as spoken by God in any case. It was a parenthetical insertion by the transcriber. You can tell by the voicing.
What we knew as fact yesterday is no longer valid today. I will just except that we are here and God created us.
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.And the second set is not even close:
Well, no, I wouldn't want to support that??? It sounded more like the material struck the 'reasonable chord' somewhat with you. Not that you would admit it... the 'pause' just sort of gave it away.The pause was there for a reason. Atheists do not think that Jesus was divine and I would not think that you would want to support them in that.
Promotes thoughtful dialogue... aren't we having thoughtful dialogue???Because just as we understand that gravity is real and is the cause for all sorts of things from a ball dropping on Earth to the motions of the planets and more, we also know that evolution is real. Denying evolution is denying reality. You would probably need to learn some science to understand this. Many Christians do understand this. In fact I could link you to a valid site by Christians that are real scientists (they follow the scientific method and publish and everything! To even work at Answers In Genesis one must swear not to follow the scientific method, making their work not science). In fact why not. Why trust me when you can see what your own fellow Christians write:
BioLogos - God's Word. God's World.
Does it matter how God created us? Would we understand it if he were to explain it? The Bible could only explain for the understanding of the times it was written.
That is not totally true. Take gravity for example. Most people only understand Galilean gravity at best. That is the good old D = (1/2)gt^2 + vt +h. That describes how an object falls near the Earth.
If a person has had a smattering of physics and calculus he can understand Newtonian gravitation. F =GMm/r^2 . That describes the motions of the planets fairly accurately. And even fewer understand Einstein's General Relativity. That is as accurately as we understand gravity today. By the way that does not make Newton and Galileo "wrong". They are merely inaccurate under certain circumstances. Very few new ideas in the sciences that are well accepted are shown to be wrong. That is why denying evolution is no different from denying gravity. The gravity that we accept every day is like the variation that is obvious in every birth. And the fact that people do not understand gravity does not stop them from using the GPS functions of their cell phones.
But I have seen from my own personal experience that the obvious is very frequently not seen unless the Holy Spirit opens our eyes to see it.
Do you have a point there? It appears that you are saying that the apostles and Jesus did not understand the Commandments in the Ark of the Covenant. Your quotes without commentary are hard to understand.Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Save some for me. Very tasty, lightly steamed with salt and pepper is all that I need. It is sacrilege to cook them to a soft mush!Is this where I have to insert something that shows that our understanding of facts change? Come on, you understand the point I was making.
I have to go out and pick a ton of green beans shortly. Let's continue this at a later time. I don't understand how they grow but I do understand that they taste good
According to some creationists it does. I've seen more than a few creationists on this forum claim that unless one adheres to (their version of) a strict literal Biblical interpretation, then one cannot even be a Christian.
I am trying to have a thoughtful dialogue. If one understands the sciences at all it quickly becomes obvious that Genesis cannot be read literally as creationists do. The evidence against that is as strong as the evidence against those that use the Bible to argue that the Earth is Flat, and there are Christians that do that. By the same standards that one uses to reject a Flat Earth interpretation of the Bible many Christians reject the literal interpretation of Genesis.Well, no, I wouldn't want to support that??? It sounded more like the material struck the 'reasonable chord' somewhat with you. Not that you would admit it... the 'pause' just sort of gave it away.
Promotes thoughtful dialogue... aren't we having thoughtful dialogue???
Not sure of the point you're making here. Just curious... is it just the OT you do not believe, or do you not even believe the gospels?That's the view of conservative Evangelical Protestants--creationists--towards any Christian who doesn't "believe the Bible."
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