Do creationists accept the evolution of plants?

[Loudmouth]

Yes, the Godless Darwinists are continually attempting to change the focus from creation and evolution but it's not going to work.

You define "creation" as the creation of anything, so that includes all of science. It is YOU who has made the focus all of science.

cre·a·tion
noun \krē-ˈā-shən\

: the act of making or producing something that did not exist before : the act of creating something

: something new that is made or produced : something that has been created

: everything in the world

Creation - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary​

That is creationism, as you define it. It includes EVERYTHING. You are the one who has brought the focus to things outside of evolution by including every aspect of the universe in your definition of atheistic creationism.

 

[Loudmouth]

Show me where I have defined atheistic creationism is "all of science".

Every time you define creationism by using the definition for creation:

cre·a·tion
noun \krē-ˈā-shən\

: the act of making or producing something that did not exist before : the act of creating something

: something new that is made or produced : something that has been created

: everything in the world

Creation - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, the Godless Darwinists are continually attempting to change the focus from creation and evolution but it's not going to work.

Once again, this is a fail on your part. What is wrong with the theory of evolution not referring to gods? No other sciences refer to gods so they too should be atheistic by your standards.

We are only asking that you be consistent.

 

[Loudmouth]

"Evolutionism is the atheistic worldview that says life developed without God and without purpose. Instead, we agree with Christians who adhere to Intelligent Design and Creationism that the God of the Bible created the universe and all life. "​

Point out the "all of science" part.

Define "creationism".

 

[AV1611VET]

Please try to argue honestly.

And how would you know it if we did?

 

[Loudmouth]

And how would you know it if we did?

We compare your words to the facts.

 

[AV1611VET]

How is it any different than a godless form of chemistry, a godless form of thermodynamics, or a godless form of particle physics?

It's not.

Godless is godless.

 

[justlookinla]

You define "creation" as the creation of anything, so that includes all of science. It is YOU who has made the focus all of science.

cre·a·tion
noun \krē-ˈā-shən\

: the act of making or producing something that did not exist before : the act of creating something

: something new that is made or produced : something that has been created

: everything in the world

Creation - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary​

That is creationism, as you define it. It includes EVERYTHING. You are the one who has brought the focus to things outside of evolution by including every aspect of the universe in your definition of atheistic creationism.

Ok, you can't. I'm not surprised.

 

[justlookinla]

Once again, this is a fail on your part. What is wrong with the theory of evolution not referring to gods? No other sciences refer to gods so they too should be atheistic by your standards.

We are only asking that you be consistent.

I'm only asking you to concentrate on creation and evolution.

 

[Loudmouth]

Ok, you can't. I'm not surprised.

I just did. You define creationism as encompassing all of science, from the creation of large molecules from smaller atoms to the creation of a heat gradient.

As usual, you have to run away from your own words. If you think I am wrong, reference a definition for "creationism". I dare you.

 

[justlookinla]

Define "creationism".

Didn't think you could. That's because you can't.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm only asking you to concentrate on creation and evolution.

Other sciences are part of evolution. All science works together. You cannot ignore part of one science at the expense of others.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why is it okay to use all of those atheistic sciences but it is not okay to use atheistic evolution?

I can show you "atheistic evolution" in Wikipedia.

Can you show me "atheistic chemistry" from the same source?

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm only asking you to concentrate on creation and evolution.

That's because you want to hide your rejection of all of science. Sorry, not going to happen. We are focusing on what you define as atheistic creationism, which includes every single scientific theory in every field of science.

 

[justlookinla]

I just did. You define creationism as encompassing all of science, from the creation of large molecules from smaller atoms to the creation of a heat gradient.

As usual, you have to run away from your own words. If you think I am wrong, reference a definition for "creationism". I dare you.

Whenever you can actually quote me concerning "all of science".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Didn't think you could. That's because you can't.

He gave a standard definition for it. He was pointing out that you are dishonest in your definitions of words. Do you think that you are fooling anyone with your constant word-play?

 

[justlookinla]

That's because you want to hide your rejection of all of science. Sorry, not going to happen. We are focusing on what you define as atheistic creationism, which includes every single scientific theory in every field of science.

Wanna talk about the guesses and suppositions of the creation of humanity? You know, relating to the topic of this board.

 

[Loudmouth]

I can show you "atheistic evolution" in Wikipedia.

Can you show me "atheistic chemistry" from the same source?

What is the difference? Both propose natural mechanisms as explanations for natural phenomena. If the theory of evolution is atheistic for only proposing natural mechanisms, then so too is chemistry.

 

[justlookinla]

He gave a standard definition for it. He was pointing out that you are dishonest in your definitions of words. Do you think that you are fooling anyone with your constant word-play?

Go paraphrase something, that should keep you entertained for a bit.

 

[Loudmouth]

Wanna talk about the guesses and suppositions of the creation of humanity? You know, relating to the topic of this board.

You would have to point them out, first.