Do creationists accept the evolution of plants?

[justlookinla]

That exhibit a twin-nested hierarchy that is an absolute requirement for evolution but not at all necessary in any way for a designer?

The designer designs according to his purpose.

 

[Loudmouth]

No they don't. Stick with how humanity came into existence instead of attempting to change the focus.

Stick with creationism as you define it. Why are you running away from your own terms?

By your own definition, the theory of how water is created by the Godless, purposeless, random, and directionless interaction of hydrogen and oxygen is atheistic creationism.

 

[Loudmouth]

The designer designs according to his purpose.

Funny how creationists feel it necessary to tell God what his purpose is supposed to be.

 

[justlookinla]

Stick with creationism as you define it. Why are you running away from your own terms?

By your own definition, the theory of how water is created by the Godless, purposeless, random, and directionless interaction of hydrogen and oxygen is atheistic creationism.

We're discussing how humanity came into existence. Life.

Stick with creationism and evolution.

 

[Loudmouth]

It's part of the designers plan.

It is part of the designer's plan to make it look like evolution?

 

[justlookinla]

Funny how creationists feel it necessary to tell God what his purpose is supposed to be.

I'm not telling God anything, I'm accepting His design.

 

[justlookinla]

It is part of the designer's plan to make it look like evolution?

You'd have to ask the designer.

 

[Loudmouth]

We're discussing how humanity came into existence. Life.

Stick with creationism and evolution.

I am sticking with creationism which, by your definition, includes the creation of water from oxygen and hydrogen.

All of science is atheistic creationism, according to your definition.

 

[Loudmouth]

You'd have to ask the designer.

What designer? Evidence please.

 

[Subduction Zone]

From the Biologos Foundation website...

"Evolutionism is the atheistic worldview that says life developed without God and without purpose. Instead, we agree with Christians who adhere to Intelligent Design and Creationism that the God of the Bible created the universe and all life."​

Biologos is a bogus Christian site. The question was about the theory of evolution not a false made up Christian term.

You are not debating honestly, again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm not telling God anything, I'm accepting His design.

Actually you are claiming what God did and not giving any evidence that supports your claims.

 

[Skaloop]

The designer designs according to his purpose.

So the guy can design in any way he wants, ways we can't even imagine, and he does it EXACTLY how evolution would HAVE to do it?

Analogy:

You have two chefs willing to cook a meal for you. You go to Chef A and tell him you want a pizza, 12" in diameter, with pepperoni, mozza and cheddar cheese, ground beef, hot peppers, mushrooms, and pineapple. You go to Chef B and tell him he is free to make you whatever meal he wants.

The first meal comes out, and it's a pizza, 12" in diameter, with pepperoni, mozza and cheddar cheese, ground beef, hot peppers, mushrooms, and pineapple.

The second meal comes out, and upon the removal of the silver dome is a note that says "I made that meal. Chef B."

Which chef made that meal? Technically it could have been either, but the specific requirements made of Chef A definitely point to him being the one who made the meal.

 

[AV1611VET]

Once again, what is the "Godless form of evolution"?

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

The Godless form of evolution says:

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of [a common ancestor].

 

[justlookinla]

Biologos is a bogus Christian site. The question was about the theory of evolution not a false made up Christian term.

You are not debating honestly, again.

LOL! A bogus Christian site?

You asked what Godless evolution was, I gave you the definition.

 

[justlookinla]

Actually you are claiming what God did and not giving any evidence that supports your claims.

It's a faith-based belief. Like the faith-based beliefs that the universe was created from nothing by nothing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL! A bogus Christian site?

You asked what Godless evolution was, I gave you the definition.

No, you used a bogus site. They have an open prejudice and are of no merit. Try again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's a faith-based belief. Like the faith-based beliefs that the universe was created from nothing by nothing.

The latter is not a faith based belief. It is an admitted possibility that is supported by the current understanding of the laws of nature. Of course you have demonstrated that you do not understand these laws of nature and you then make the mistake of calling it "faith based".

 

[Subduction Zone]

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

The Godless form of evolution says:

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of [a common ancestor].

Wrong, you are simply quote mining the Bible again. That is blasphemy.

But don't worry, they are not that strict here.

 

[justlookinla]

No, you used a bogus site. They have an open prejudice and are of no merit. Try again.

No, it's not a bogus site. It's defining Godless evolution.

 

[justlookinla]

The latter is not a faith based belief. It is an admitted possibility that is supported by the current understanding of the laws of nature.

No it's not. The current laws of nature allows for no such supernatural view. That's why it's supernatural. Your 'yeah it could be we just don't know it yet' claim is completely worthless.

Of course you have demonstrated that you do not understand these laws of nature and you then make the mistake of calling it "faith based".

The laws of nature do not allow for nothing to create a universe from nothing.