Believe God will take care of us in EVERY way. Divorce is believing Satan rather than God. It's deception. Satan is an expert in deception.
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- Thread starter butterflyring09
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No that's not it. Not for those who believe God.
Mark 11:24 (KJV)
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
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ducky
1) from you it's an emotionalistic rant if you forsake context.
2) that has absolutely nothing to do with why i said.
3)Youre not helping, however.
1) from you it's an emotionalistic rant if you forsake context.
2) that has absolutely nothing to do with why i said.
3)Youre not helping, however.
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When it's faith you won't have to ask. You will know. God has provided us with help in every instance of our lives. His promises are there for we who believe them. They are as reliable as John 3:16. They are from the same God.
Jas 4:8
"Draw near to God and He will draw near to you."
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The context is the Bible. God takes care of His own who diligently seek Him.
Hebrews 11:6 (NKJV)
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
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Freodin
Devout believer in a theologically different God
This doesn´t answer my question: what happened when it goes wrong? Or are you really saying that it can´t go wrong... that all the marriages where the faithful spouse was beaten to bloody pulp were all their fault for not "believing" enough?
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Not at all. God is faithful to His MANY promises.
Mark 10:29-30 (NKJV)
29 So Jesus answered and said, "Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands, for My sake and the gospel's, 30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time--houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions--and in the age to come, eternal life.
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God's promises are for individuals. It is the responsibility of each individual to either believe God or Satan. Our choice! When it's faith you don't have to wonder if God will show up to help or not. Fear is the opposite of faith.
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Regarding the "God hates divorce" thing:
Maybe it´s naive and inappropriate a question (e.g. because you may say god can hate whatever god wishes to hate, arbitrarily, and god doesn´t need any sound reason for hating something) - but does anyone of those who present this as the final argument have an idea what reasons god has to hate divorce regardless of the circumstances?
Maybe it´s naive and inappropriate a question (e.g. because you may say god can hate whatever god wishes to hate, arbitrarily, and god doesn´t need any sound reason for hating something) - but does anyone of those who present this as the final argument have an idea what reasons god has to hate divorce regardless of the circumstances?
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that is precisely what he is saying. Sick, isn't it?
Except that in these cases, God DID show up to help. He helped us figure out that we needed to be out of that relationship and we needed to be rid of the stumbling block to our own faith.
I am not deceived by Satan. As I have pointed out numerous times, I am very blessed in my marriage. It is strong, my husband loves me and he loves our children, I love him and I love my children. We have a thriving ministry and God's presence is everywhere in this house.
I'm living proof that Ducky is wrong.
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beckyjustbecky
Can't wait to meet our baby on April7th 2012
Duckybill,
Honestly you have no idea what you are talking about.
Either you have never seen a violent relationship to the point where on person fears for their lives or you are delusional!
Yes I agree that we need to abide by gods laws, but does that also mean we shouldnt mix fabrics? God gave us a brain to use and wisdom to use, I think in these circumstances it is safer to get out while you still can!
Honestly you have no idea what you are talking about.
Either you have never seen a violent relationship to the point where on person fears for their lives or you are delusional!
Yes I agree that we need to abide by gods laws, but does that also mean we shouldnt mix fabrics? God gave us a brain to use and wisdom to use, I think in these circumstances it is safer to get out while you still can!
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Duckybill is *really* depressing me. I already believe that based on my deliberate sin of unbiblical divorce, I've lost my salvation. I mean, God likens my act to that of murder, so what hope do I really have of being forgiven by Him in the end?
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What is "sick" is blaming God rather than taking personal responsibility. Much like Adam and Eve did.
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I have been threatened at gun point because of my religious beliefs. I do know what I'm talking about. God is faithful. I do not own a gun. Don't need one.
Getting out is fine. I would recommend it. Divorce? Nope. No reason to divorce except adultery.
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