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GrimKingGrim

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http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/carnivores.html
Simosuchus the vegetarian crocodile
Other evidence that carnivorous reptiles once had teeth for eating vegetation comes from the fossil remains of Simosuchus.

for more information read:
A Broccoli-Eating Croc?(fossil discovery) Discover: Sept, 2000

There is evidence that Piranha were once vegetarian as well. (Piranha by David Catchpoole, Ph.D. Creation Ex Nihilo 22(4):20–23,September–November 2000)

Ev-o-lu-tion
 
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I don't believe in a universal force. I don't believe it has a meaning. And the words I would use are meaningless and vast; incomprehensibly large, chaotic. The universe is the universe.
The "universe" has to have meaning if you and I are even to converse. The fact that words have meaning and there is clear order in this universe is one way in which the idea of a "meaningless universe" is shown to be, well, completely meaningless. It is not all chaotic, that much is self-evident, right now even as we type.
 
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Every death is different. Like birth, no two are ever the same.

I don't believe you can tell me that my work does anything other than halt life. I pretty sure it's the same. Every single time.

What you actually mean is the ways which people reach that, but that doesn't change death, just the way you reach it.
 
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Ok. Could you explain further. Are these differences referring to physical differences in the process of death? Or are you talking about something completely different?

Every death is a transition from one state to another state, like birth. This transition is irreversible, and it is different every single time. Although it is true that all life must die, that does not mean that every death is the same. Every death is unique, just as every snowflake is unique.

The process will always be different, the experience will be different, and the end result will be different. To see a row of corpses and assume that death is the same for everyone is rather foolish, I would suggest.

Even though every leaf must fall from the tree in my garden, no two leaves will fall at exactly the same moment or land at exactly the same place. That is not how the universe works; it is full of uniqueness, full of moments that can never be repeated or duplicated. Every leaf will fall in its own unique way.
 
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I don't believe you can tell me that my work does anything other than halt life. I pretty sure it's the same. Every single time.

What you actually mean is the ways which people reach that, but that doesn't change death, just the way you reach it.

Your work? Don't make me laugh. : D
 
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The "universe" has to have meaning if you and I are even to converse. The fact that words have meaning and there is clear order in this universe is one way in which the idea of a "meaningless universe" is shown to be, well, completely meaningless. It is not all chaotic, that much is self-evident, right now even as we type.

We made words. These words don't affect reality at large. We can change the meaning of the word "Universe" to mean "delicious banana pudding" if we wanted to. Meanings are only relative to our minds and are only in existence as a means to communicate to each other. But outside the use of words nothing changes. A rock does not become a fish and therefore subscribe to the meaning of being a fish, by me calling it a fish. So I could just as easily refer to the universe as a fish and it'd be much the same. The words I use affect no universe.

The only reason I describe the universe as "universe" and "meaningless" is because that's the only way we can actually communicate. But that doesn't actually affect reality and what the universe is and will always be.
 
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Every death is a transition from one state to another state, like birth. This transition is irreversible, and it is different every single time.

And you're born. I see no difference.

Although it is true that all life must die, that does not mean that every death is the same. Every death is unique, just as every snowflake is unique.

Hmmm, no.

The process will always be different, the experience will be different, and the end result will be different.

The end result is death. That doesn't change.

To see a row of corpses and assume that death is the same for everyone is rather foolish, I would suggest.

:expressionless::expressionless::expressionless:

Even though every leaf must fall from the tree in my garden, no two leaves will fall at exactly the same moment or land at exactly the same place.

But the end result is they are on the ground.

That is not how the universe works; it is full of uniqueness, full of moments that can never be repeated or duplicated. Every leaf will fall in its own unique way.

Yes, but how a star explodes doesn't matter. The end result is that a star exploded.

Your work? Don't make me laugh. : D

I am an ordained harbinger of death. I lived (ironically) for about 4 centuries. I took Napoleon off his high horse.

In the prohibition era I was known as Al CaBone or Grimmy, The Butcher.
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Every death is a transition from one state to another state, like birth. This transition is irreversible, and it is different every single time. Although it is true that all life must die, that does not mean that every death is the same. Every death is unique, just as every snowflake is unique.

The process will always be different, the experience will be different, and the end result will be different. To see a row of corpses and assume that death is the same for everyone is rather foolish, I would suggest.

Even though every leaf must fall from the tree in my garden, no two leaves will fall at exactly the same moment or land at exactly the same place. That is not how the universe works; it is full of uniqueness, full of moments that can never be repeated or duplicated. Every leaf will fall in its own unique way.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Do you have this opinion based on any objective evidence, or is it a part of your faith belief, which brings you to these conclusions?
 
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Ok, thanks for clarifying.

Do you have this opinion based on any objective evidence, or is it a part of your faith belief, which brings you to these conclusions?

I am not sure I can split that particular hair. The objective evidence is from watching leaves fall and seeing people die.

My faith would be about what happens after death, which none of us can really know for sure. But we can know about what we see, and you can do that as easily as I can.
 
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And you're born. I see no difference.



Hmmm, no.



The end result is death. That doesn't change.



:expressionless::expressionless::expressionless:



But the end result is they are on the ground.



Yes, but how a star explodes doesn't matter. The end result is that a star exploded.



I am an ordained harbinger of death. I lived (ironically) for about 4 centuries. I took Napoleon off his high horse.

In the prohibition era I was known as Al CaBone or Grimmy, The Butcher.
519147_1.jpg

You rather fancy yourself, don't you?

: D
 
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Role Playing is fun.

It would be more fun for the rest of us if you were better at it. The whole point of the Grim Reaper is that he is reaping good souls to eternity, bad ones to destruction. If, as you suggest, he reaps us all to oblivion, then that is nothing whatever to fear for anyone. Who would fear going to sleep forever and never waking up?

The only Grim Reaper who could potentially be feared is one in a Christian context of damnation, which you reject. And by rejecting that you effectively blunt the edge of your scythe and make it useless to frighten anyone. Except yourself, of course. I suspect you are the only one frightened here.

Good luck with that one.
 
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