Dinosaurs on the Ark?

[Zackuth]

God told Noah that two of every kind of animal was to be on the ark, not two of every animal. For instance, there were only two bears on the ark, not two polar bears, and two brown bears, and two black bears, etc. So whatever kind of animal dinosaurs were, there were just two of each. Also, we might consider that fertile but unhatched eggs would be part of two kinds, and would be no problem on the ark.

Also, since dinosaurs were big and some even ferocious, they could have been the prize animal in hunts. Nimrod was described as a might hunter, could it be because he hunted the big dinosaurs?

Regardless of what has happened, we have recorded for us that two of every kind of animal was on the ark, meaning two of every kind of dinosaur.

As for the flood being something that happened locally, God told Noah He was going to destroy all flesh on the earth, this cannot be just a local happening. About 2000 years past since the fall and the time of Noah, the earth would have been populated quite a bit by animals. A global flood would have been the only way to kill them all.

 

[Zackuth]

God told Noah that two of every kind of animal was to be on the ark, not two of every animal. For instance, there were only two bears on the ark, not two polar bears, and two brown bears, and two black bears, etc. So whatever kind of animal dinosaurs were, there were just two of each. Also, we might consider that fertile but unhatched eggs would be part of two kinds, and would be no problem on the ark.

Also, since dinosaurs were big and some even ferocious, they could have been the prize animal in hunts. Nimrod was described as a might hunter, could it be because he hunted the big dinosaurs?

Regardless of what has happened, we have recorded for us that two of every kind of animal was on the ark, meaning two of every kind of dinosaur.

As for the flood being something that happened locally, God told Noah He was going to destroy all flesh on the earth, this cannot be just a local happening. About 2000 years past since the fall and the time of Noah, the earth would have been populated quite a bit by animals. A global flood would have been the only way to kill them all.

 

[Zackuth]

Sorry for the multiple posts.

 

[AV1611VET]

As for the flood being something that happened locally, God told Noah He was going to destroy all flesh on the earth, this cannot be just a local happening.

Good post, Zackuth!

Keep in mind too that Noah's Ark came to rest in Mesopotamia ... not started out in Mesopotamia, like many evidently think.

I don't think Noah lived anywhere near Mesopotamia, and the Ark didn't just bobble around the area for a year ... it probably went around the world and then some.

Remember too that the land consisted of one big supercontinent, not continents as some like to show on maps and in videos.

 

[Job 33:6]

I thought you moved on? Will I have to hand you your ass again?

Why don't you believe your bible?

Lets keep the language PG please. We are adults after all.

 

[Job 33:6]

God told Noah that two of every kind of animal was to be on the ark, not two of every animal. For instance, there were only two bears on the ark, not two polar bears, and two brown bears, and two black bears, etc. So whatever kind of animal dinosaurs were, there were just two of each. Also, we might consider that fertile but unhatched eggs would be part of two kinds, and would be no problem on the ark.

Also, since dinosaurs were big and some even ferocious, they could have been the prize animal in hunts. Nimrod was described as a might hunter, could it be because he hunted the big dinosaurs?

Regardless of what has happened, we have recorded for us that two of every kind of animal was on the ark, meaning two of every kind of dinosaur.

As for the flood being something that happened locally, God told Noah He was going to destroy all flesh on the earth, this cannot be just a local happening. About 2000 years past since the fall and the time of Noah, the earth would have been populated quite a bit by animals. A global flood would have been the only way to kill them all.

There is nothing in Genesis about Noah traveling the earth collecting eggs and then setting up incubators on the ship.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

God told Noah that two of every kind of animal was to be on the ark, not two of every animal. For instance, there were only two bears on the ark, not two polar bears, and two brown bears, and two black bears, etc. So whatever kind of animal dinosaurs were, there were just two of each. Also, we might consider that fertile but unhatched eggs would be part of two kinds, and would be no problem on the ark.

Also, since dinosaurs were big and some even ferocious, they could have been the prize animal in hunts. Nimrod was described as a might hunter, could it be because he hunted the big dinosaurs?

Regardless of what has happened, we have recorded for us that two of every kind of animal was on the ark, meaning two of every kind of dinosaur.

As for the flood being something that happened locally, God told Noah He was going to destroy all flesh on the earth, this cannot be just a local happening. About 2000 years past since the fall and the time of Noah, the earth would have been populated quite a bit by animals. A global flood would have been the only way to kill them all.

2 of each (1 pair) or 14 of each (2 pairs). Depends on whether you take Genesis 6 literally or Genesis 7 literally, because they contradict each other.

 

[Zackuth]

I never said it happened, I just mentioned a possibility.

 

[Job 33:6]

Once people realized that a 500 foot boat was too small to hold all the animals, rather than rethinking scripture they proposed baby animals and eggs.

Once they realized the baby animals still couldnt fit they proposed that animals that cannot currently breed perhaps back then could.

Once they realized that there were estimates between 5 to 10 million independent arthropod species, they proposed super evolution and expedited biological diversification after the flood.

When they realized marsupials were only present in australia and that koalas couldnt swim marathons, they proposed that God teleported animals to their respective biogeographic locations.

These ideas are not in scripture, they are the product of mans imagination.

https://repository.si.edu/bitstream/handle/10088/1315/Odegaard_2000.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

 

[Zackuth]

2 of each (1 pair) or 14 of each (2 pairs). Depends on whether you take Genesis 6 literally or Genesis 7 literally, because they contradict each other.

It was 7 pair of clean animals and 1 pair of unclean according to Genesis 7.

 

[Job 33:6]

When they realized the animals would need fresh water (all 5-10+ million of them) they proposed that a handful of buckets (or perhaps thousands of buckets) were setup to collect rainwater.

Still not sure where each animals food came from...

When they realized that 300+ days worth of feces would collect in the undersized cells in which the animals were packed, they proposed hydrophobic windows (cant have storm waters washing in the windows and drowning the insects or causing bacterial and fungal growth in the animal cells) and perfect crisp clean air ventilation to keep the animals from dying due to asphyxiation from the stench.

A literal interpretation of Noahs ark and flood fails on numerous accounts.

People begin putting their imagination into scripture, and it takes them down this wild rabbit hole, where the story they end up with, is nothing like what was spoken in scripture.

 

[EpiscipalMe]

It was 7 pair of clean animals and 1 pair of unclean according to Genesis 7.

Right, but Genesis 6 says 2 pair of each kind.

So, which is the literal account? One pair of each kind. Or, seven pairs of each clean and one pair of each unclean? They can't both be literal.

Seems allegory is the way to go.

 

[Job 33:6]

This is news to me, AIG proposes a flood that lasted potentially up to a year.

Thats 1 year of food and 1 year of excrement (and perhaps 1 year of cleaning materials). Where did this food come from?

 

[Eryk]

2 of each (1 pair) or 14 of each (2 pairs). Depends on whether you take Genesis 6 literally or Genesis 7 literally, because they contradict each other.

They don't contradict each other. Genesis 6 says nothing about clean animals. It's a more basic statement, because the vast majority of animals are unclean. Genesis 7 makes a distinction between clean and unclean.

 

[AV1611VET]

Once people realized that a 500 foot boat was too small to hold all the animals, rather than rethinking scripture they proposed baby animals and eggs.

Either that, or they rethink Scripture and realize the Ark (not boat) could be a TARDIS booth, in which the inside is larger than the outside.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

When they rethink Scripture and realize Paul speaks of four dimensions of space ...

Ephesians 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

... they realize the Ark (not a boat) could house Jupiter.

You might want to rethink people not rethinking Scripture.

When they realized marsupials were only present in australia and that koalas couldnt swim marathons, they proposed that God teleported animals to their respective biogeographic locations.

That's right.

These ideas are not in scripture, they are the product of mans imagination.

You might want to rethink that.

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Revelation 11:12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

John 6:21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: and immediately the ship was at the land whither they went.

 

[AV1611VET]

When they realized the animals would need fresh water (all 5-10+ million of them) they proposed that a handful of buckets (or perhaps thousands of buckets) were setup to collect rainwater.

Others can realize that it would take only a tub of water -- or even a rock.

1 Kings 17:16 And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.

Matthew 14:21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.

Matthew 15:38 And they that did eat were four thousand men, beside women and children.

Exodus 17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

Numbers 20:8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.

Deuteronomy 8:15 Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought, where there was no water; who brought thee forth water out of the rock of flint;

 

[AV1611VET]

Where did this food come from?

Take your best guess.

Exodus 16:14 And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground.
Exodus 16:15 And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the LORD hath given you to eat.

 

[-57]

What ark? Your imaginary hypothetical Ark?

The ark that's in the Bible......are you making fun of me because I believe the Bible?

 

[-57]

What about that guy who built an ark? Let's ask him to load up one pair of each kind of animal and see if they fit.

If you would have been following this thread yesterday...you would have seen that that issue has been answered.

Thank you for your concern.

 

[-57]

Ken Ham missed a good bet there. Instead of building a fake theme-park replica Ark, he should have gotten some artisans together and tried to build a real one, with authentic Early Bronze Age boatbuilding techniques. That would have been a real "Feasibility Study."

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo, you know what the technology available to Noah was?