Dinosaur footprints destroy flood geology.

[Psudopod]

I was about to copy-and-paste a map of Israel, until I caught that all in your above challenge, and [instantly] realized that if scientists can't even agree unanimously on a planet, they sure aren't going to agree unanimously on a country. That's why Pluto was settled by vote.

You've missed the point and caught yourself caught up in the Pluto thing again. Let me see if I can untangle you.

Firstly, no scientific understanding of Pluto has changed. We know about as much about Pluto before it lost planet status as we did afterwards. The term planet was a fairly arbitary description. With the discovery of many other Pluto-like bodies in the solar system, we would either have to say we have many planets, or 8. No science was wrong, just the arbitary label "planet" has got less arbitary.

Secondly, science works by being able to demonstrate and convince. If a miracle occurs to one person that leaves no evidence, science cannot say if it happened or not. If it does leave evidence, then we can examine this. Also, how would you insert God into science? Say you were studying a chemical reaction, where would you put God in the equation? It may be that God is aware of every molecule and has set up his creation so that HCl + NAOH = H2O +NaCl, but where do you write in God? If a scientist is Christian, he will worship God and give him thanks for the creation, if he isn't, then he won't. But all of them do science in exactly the same way.

 

[beamishboy]

Was Pluto settled by vote?

There is more to my post than about Pluto. The line you take reminds me of how some kids used to tease other kids this way:

Kid A: You're a monkey

Kid B: No, I'm not.

Kid A: Have you got hair?

Kid B: Sure.

Kid A: Have monkeys hair?

Kid B: That's not fair.

Kid A: Just answer the question. Have monkeys hair?

Kid B: Yes.

Kid A. That settles it. You're a monkey.

But my dear AV1611VET, I don't know about you but the last time I encountered that sort of thing was when I was in kindergarten and that was a long time ago. Hehe.

 

[AV1611VET]

Secondly, science works by being able to demonstrate and convince.

Then why was Pluto voted on? Are you telling me that Pluto had 100% acceptance? Not one scientist disagrees with how Pluto was declassified?

 

[AV1611VET]

But my dear AV1611VET, I don't know about you but the last time I encountered that sort of thing was when I was in kindergarten and that was a long time ago. Hehe.

Second time, Beamishboy --- was Pluto settled by vote?

 

[beamishboy]

Second time, Beamishboy --- was Pluto settled by vote?

You can go on behaving like that bully, Kid A but I won't fall into the trap like Kid B did. Let's behave like grown-ups, shall we?

 

[AV1611VET]

You can go on behaving like that bully, Kid A but I won't fall into the trap like Kid B did. Let's behave like grown-ups, shall we?

Have a good day.

 

[beamishboy]

Have a good day.

That's called chickening out. You have a good day too. And a good rest cos fighting the beamish boy is always an exhausting (and usually fatal) exercise. Hehe.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

I was about to copy-and-paste a map of Israel, until I caught that all in your above challenge, and [instantly] realized that if scientists can't even agree unanimously on a planet, they sure aren't going to agree unanimously on a country. That's why Pluto was settled by vote.

You're purposely raising the bar too high, as to exclude the miraculous.

A few days ago I sent Thaum a PM wondering why you hadn't brought up your bogus nonsense about the reclassification of Pluto. It has nothing to do with the topic of this thread or with the reality of Pluto. It is just a renaming of an item on the map which you have again confused with the territory. You were a little slow but thanks for fullfilling my prophecy.

FB.

 

[Psudopod]

Then why was Pluto voted on? Are you telling me that Pluto had 100% acceptance? Not one scientist disagrees with how Pluto was declassified?

Because it was a matter of ascetics, not science! The vote was "do we want 8 planets in our solar system or hundreds"? It makes no difference to our understanding either way. Personally I agree with the decision, other people would rather Pluto was still a planet. But it was purely a vote on what label we stick on various objects in the solar system. If people thought it necessary we could have a different word for the inner rocky bodies and the outer gaseous ones. But it wouldn't be a matter of science, just naming of objects.

 

[ChordatesLegacy]

Rob Byers wrote:

Molal
I have trouble with your posts because they don't discuss the merits of the thread often.

Yes he does; and at the danger of ass licking, often with elegance.


This is a forum for origin issues. No peer-reviews are needed.

Peer review material does matter and is most defiantly needed. Otherwise we would all be sputing bull s--- like you.

Its on the merits of the case and nor other claims to authority.

So if we disused apples falling from trees we could not refer to Sir Isaac Newton’s Naturalis_Principia_Mathematica

If we discussed relativity we could not refer to Albert Einstein’s Special_theory_of_relativity

If we discussed plate tectonics we could not refer to Alfred Wegener’s Continental_drift


We all refer to other peoples work, that is why scientific papers are peer review; that way the standards are kept high and pseudoscience and magical mysticism are resigned to the creationist dust bin.




It is up to your side to show the facts that make present geology doctrine.

Tried, tested and proved beyond doubt. It is just a shame that indoctrinated YEC cannot find their repressed interlect.


Then creationists take it on.

They take on nothing; not one peer review paper in any scientific journal.


What is your favorite geology fact that makes your case that the rocks are old?

Guess what

 

[mrghost]

All Christians are to Seek the Truth, God would have it no other way.
Science is gathering facts. If it does not exist then there are no facts to gather. I love the Truth and True Logic...And good Science.
For real logic and Science Prove that God does indeed Exist. The Bible commands Gods followers to seek wisdom and the truth it would be a feather in you hat, a jewel in your crown.
There are many Planets that we, do to our limited techology, can not see.
Just cause you cant see it, does not mean it does not exist. you can see a atom with your eyes. you can see the wind. You cant see harmful Bacteria and you cant see the stars that are a million light years away. For it would take a million years just for its reflection to reach our view, scope, by then we will be gone...Moot point.

I find your picture of Alfred E Numan From Mad Comics very distasteful, what are you portraying by this old image that you are a joke, what a laugh, Is that the best you could do.? Bad taste, poor joke, no tact or wisdom, just stupidity. That does not belong in this realm. Get on over to the joke section where you belong. you are using a Avatar like that for what,? I gotta hear this Brain storm...cause I ain't laughing at your bad taste...Mrghost.......A real Veteran

 

[flatworm]

Science is gathering facts. If it does not exist then there are no facts to gather. I love the Truth and True Logic...And good Science.
For real logic and Science Prove that God does indeed Exist.

Dear me, I must be getting behind in the literature. Could you show me the Real Science that proves God's existence, please?

 

[thaumaturgy]

I too would like to see the science that proves God's existence!

Thanks in advance!

 

[beamishboy]

There's no way anyone can prove through science the existence of God. God is totally based on faith. He wants it that way. He decreed it that way. Science is just a parallel system. It's good for facts about everything except God.

The Bible is not a science book and that's that. It contains God's truth and that's all there is to it.

 

[pgp_protector]

All Christians are to Seek the Truth, God would have it no other way.
Science is gathering facts. If it does not exist then there are no facts to gather. I love the Truth and True Logic...And good Science.
For real logic and Science Prove that God does indeed Exist. The Bible commands Gods followers to seek wisdom and the truth it would be a feather in you hat, a jewel in your crown.
...snip...

There's no way anyone can prove through science the existence of God. God is totally based on faith. He wants it that way. He decreed it that way. Science is just a parallel system. It's good for facts about everything except God.

The Bible is not a science book and that's that. It contains God's truth and that's all there is to it.

 

[AV1611VET]

I too would like to see the science that proves God's existence!

Science is not good enough to prove the existence of God and needs to get off its high-horse about Him.

 

[beamishboy]

Science is not good enough to prove the existence of God and needs to get off its high-horse about Him.

Is that why you say "Science can take a hike"?

 

[AV1611VET]

Is that why you say "Science can take a hike"?

Yes.

 

[mrghost]

All who seek the truth, if it is science, history, math always run right into the creator, Now just why is that.
Surley your are not saying that scientist seeking the truth have not found God. that is a untrue statment called a blanket statement.
All who seek the truth by any honest means run right into the knowledge of God. Now why is that...If you study percentages Math, you run right into God.

If you took a fine swiss watch apart and put it in a bag; How many times would you have to shake it untill all the pieces fit back into their positions before you took it apart. And then how many shakes would you have to give to get all the pieces together and it also worked tic toc tic toc...
So how many times was the universe shook before one little planet called earth was born..? What are the odds. The odds dictate that there was a creator just based on percentages.......
you really have to go out of the way, and away from the truth to not believe in God...
And Alfred E Numan your Avatar promotes a mad joke and is very offensive..Is that the best you can do ? That does not stand for the truth, wisdom, IQ, True Logic, or anything but a farce, Bad taste on your part......Mrghost...Real...Veteran

 

[AV1611VET]

And Alfred E Numan your Avatar promotes a mad joke and is very offensive..Is that the best you can do ?

How about I change it to look like a cowboy with blue hair beamed down to Gotham City from NCC 1701, holding a Stratocaster, and standing in front of a port-a-potty?

Mrghost...Real...Veteran

I'll let my DD-214 decide if I'm a real veteran or not. Or maybe my Top Secret security clearance from a thorough BI? Or maybe my Vietnam Era Veteran status?

And as for my IQ? Well, we won't go there.