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Job never disobeyed god before god allowed satan to torment him. He was expressly one of gods most faithful servants.Believe in science and not God, bad effects of it in schools since circa 1965. Kick God to the curb, and have more drugs, school shootings, stabbings, the list goes on. Disobey God the Father, like in the book of Job, and He lets Satan, to punish his children, but hopefully restore them.
Yet we have private schools in the US, from schools run by denominations to secular schools, and if we had these in a rural area, I'm sure you can find them in an urban setting.Definition of yoked - If two or more people or things are yoked together, they are forced to be closely linked with each other.
Not necessarily. I've met families who wanted a religious education for their children. Such as the Protestant parents I know of who sent their child to a Roman Catholic school. Then there's the problem of some public schools that don't seem to do that well with teaching.They won't. That's the point. The crusade against public, secular education is to keep a permanent underclass in place and impose "christian government".
It would be easier to just allow different faiths to come in and teach for one hour. Merely providing a building for a venue is not the establishment of a religion. Giving credit for outside work in a religion is not either as long as the school district is not hiring the teachers or requiring any student to participate.Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.
Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?
Thoughts, pro or con?
This is a big part of the problem. Other folks who are not Christians having an equal place in society is not playing politics.Not to be the political pawns of adults.
I’ve been saying that for ages. The Amish (as much as I find them different and strange) at least have the courage of their convictions not to be a part of this world.Your only solution, by your argument, is for Christians to completely withdraw from contact with everyone who isn't.
You do realize that indoctrination is rampant at religious schools, yes?At least as important is that the leftists (to my mind leftists aren't liberals) don't push those things. They can indoctrinate their kids at home as they see fit, but the students are there to learn academics and basic skills. Not to be the political pawns of adults. Better schools, whether religious or secular, focus on academic performance.
I’ve been saying that for ages. The Amish (as much as I find them different and strange) at least have the courage of their convictions not to be a part of this world.
Many families, unless upper class or wealthy, cannot afford private school tuition of thousands of dollars, with the other basic necessities of life, mortgage/rent, utilities, food, clothing, etc., plus paying taxes which typically up to around 50% goes for public schools.
The tactic seems to be to sell the idea of destroying public education using nonsense culture war issues, but the bigger goal is likely to remove education as an option for the poors and funnel as much money into private education businesses as possible.Is this the reason you consider having public schools be segregated by religion, just so students are not forced to attend Pride events or barred from wearing their religion on their shirts?
Eliminating the public schools will save taxpayers money. Given the sin in the public schools today, at least a fraction of kids, it only perpetuates crime and other bad behavior later in life.
Why should it be restricted to just parents? Shouldn't the discussion of how tax dollars are used include everyone who pays taxes?Let the parents of school age children in the USA speak.
In my state, charters are required to accept all students. There’s a lottery, but it’s entirely random and not based on ability. This would be an easy thing to implement everywhere as a requirement for taking public funds.I'm glad your child is getting the education he needs. My child (well, an adult now) is also autistic (high functioning) and went to public school. The school, at every level, was great and worked with us to ensure the best possible education. But, in my experience, charter schools can, and often do, limit who they accept as students, and students with special needs of any kind are often the first to be excluded. Brings down the test scores, don'tchaknow. Public schools, which have to accept any and all students, including those with special needs, don't have that easy out, which is why they often don't fare as well when comparing standardized tests.
But I still stand by my statement: public funds should go to public schools. Full stop.
-- A2SG, I'm sure private schools can offer whatever form of financial aid they like....
So rather than solve that problem, we should turn to school choice,There are places where the public schools are still excellent, and places where the system is thoroughly broken.
I didn't mean to suggest that indoctrination is inherently bad. Rather, that we all do it in one form or the other. What parents teach at home is up to them. I would hope to raise my kids to know Christian doctrine, and wouldn't be opposed to sending them to a Christian school where what they learn at home isn't attacked by teachers or staff. Mostly so they can focus on their studies. With that being said, people have all sorts of views on religion, sexual morals, and political partisanship. Ideally, public school should allow for children raised in religious or secular homes to come together for the sake of learning academics and other skills along with playing sports, joining the school band, chess club, etc. It shouldn't be divisive or push specific political agendas. When that happens, we should ask what went wrong and how do we fix it?You do realize that indoctrination is rampant at religious schools, yes?
indoctrination: : to imbue with a usually partisan or sectarian opinion, point of view, or principle
Leaning con.Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.
Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?
Thoughts, pro or con?
It becomes difficult when what is taught at home in the name of religion is not factual. That global warming is a hoax, that drag queens can turn kids gay by reading to them, that CRT is intended to make kids ashamed of being white, and so on.I didn't mean to suggest that indoctrination is inherently bad. Rather, that we all do it in one form or the other. What parents teach at home is up to them. I would hope to raise my kids to know Christian doctrine, and wouldn't be opposed to sending them to a Christian school where what they learn at home isn't attacked by teachers or staff. Mostly so they can focus on their studies. With that being said, people have all sorts of views on religion, sexual morals, and political partisanship. Ideally, public school should allow for children raised in religious or secular homes to come together for the sake of learning academics and other skills along with playing sports, joining the school band, chess club, etc. It shouldn't be divisive or push specific political agendas. When that happens, we should ask what went wrong and how do we fix it?
No, I get it. I wasn't speaking of the individual families, but rather the drivers of the movement. (Especially the rich and the power brokers.) Those families are just making a choice about their child, not trying to remake society.Not necessarily. I've met families who wanted a religious education for their children. Such as the Protestant parents I know of who sent their child to a Roman Catholic school. Then there's the problem of some public schools that don't seem to do that well with teaching.
The existence of "segregation academies" was something that is under reported and I didn't know about them until a few years ago as they weren't a thing where I grew up.Then there's something I saw in the days of desegregation: private schools set up for no other reason than their parents didn't want their children to mix with other races. No other reason. Most of those have bit the dust. One still in operation is now integrated.
This is why this whole thing is a sore point with me: I've seen this show before. It's called segregation, and whether it's by race or religion, it's still the same. To separate for a religious education is one thing; to separate so as not to associate with those of different faiths is quite another.
People are taught all sorts of incorrect things regardless of their affiliations. If not in the name of religion then in the name of politics and other group memberships. Public schools should generally stick to agreed upon facts and steer away from politically charged positions.It becomes difficult when what is taught at home in the name of religion is not factual. That global warming is a hoax, that drag queens can turn kids gay by reading to them, that CRT is intended to make kids ashamed of being white, and so on.
The book of job is powerful. It teaches that we should be compassionate and not misjudge people by their circumstances.Job never disobeyed god before god allowed satan to torment him. He was expressly one of gods most faithful servants.
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