You cannot see/find seen such like as a car thief cannot find a police station. Claiming as you have that "a man born of God, does not commit sin, can not sin," is itself wresting of scriptures, since as referenced, that is both contrary to continuous sense which the Greek conveys in 1Jn. 3:9, and partly relies upon the premise that commiting trespass AGAINST men is not sin, which is contrary to what the whole of Scripture and the NT teaches, as exampled.
You claim, (675)
"I sin no more, any kind of sin," and Do we STILL sin? A man born of God? No. Do we ever SIN again? A man born of God? No.
Trespass AGAINST men? Yes.
Sin AGAINST God? No.
Yet the distinction btwn "sin" and trespass is artificial, as the same word (hamartanō) for sins against God is also used for sins against men, (cf. Luke 15:18,21; 17:3-4; 1Co. 8:12; 2 Peter 2:4) and as shown, treating others is how John actually describes sin vs. righteousness in 1 John 3 right after your proof text, with those who have passed from death to life being those who love the brethren in-deed, versus those who act otherwise
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. (1 John 3:10-18)
This is one of the ways John defines what sin is, and what 1 John 3:2 refers to,
"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." (1 John 3:4) And "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death." (1 John 5:17)
And thus John exhorts believers to not sin, but to confess when they do, and that provision is made for their forgiveness when they do:
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:9-10)
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: (1 John 2:1)
Obviously if born again believers do not and cannot sin then John would not be exhorting them not to, and to confess when they do, and that provision is made for their forgiveness when they do:
And as shown you before, Scripture elsewhere teaches that
to sin against others is to sin against God:
And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:11-12)
Since John plainly states that "All unrighteousness is sin," which includes injustice toward others, (Luke 18:6) and thus that "
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother," (1 John 3:10) and
"We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death," (1 John 3:14) then,
in order to not sin then you must do no unrighteousness (Luke 13:27; 16:8,9;18:6; Acts1:18; 8:23; Romans 1:18, 29; 2:8; 3:5; 9:13-14; 1Co. 13:6; 2Thes. 2:10,12; 2Tim. 2:19; Hebrews 8:12; James 3:6; 2Peter 2:13, 15; 1 John1:9; 5:17), and as sin is the transgression of the law, then you must love God with all your heart, mind, souls and strength and all others as yourself in heart and in deed, and the contrary to which is manifest by acts of commission and omission.
If you tell me you do (your "Yes I love all people" will not do, as deeds show what love is) then I will provide more details of what this love entails, which begins with the heart. (Mark 7:21-23).
Also contrary to believers being those who never sin are other exhortations to believers not to sin, and to repent when they do, such as,
Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. (1 Timothy 5:19-20)
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. (1 John 5:16)
Sin is falling short or contrary to God's standard, and thus despite what you may imagine, when you fail to love thy neighbor as thyself - which is shown by how you treat them in deed - then you commit sin. And which is not opposed to 3:9, which teaches that committing sin is not what characterizes the believer's life.
do unto others as you would have them do to you.
Note that the word ("hamartanō") for "sin" here is the same word used in 1 John 3:9, "he cannot
sin, because he is born of God," which, rather than being a contradiction with the exclusion of those who deny they have sinned, and the evidence that believers can and do, it means that while he that is born of God can indeed sin, as Scripture clearly illustrates, yet he does not characteristically practice (doeth) sinning as opposed to characteristically practicing (doeth) righteousness, including repenting when convicted of sin. Those who knowingly, impenitently practice sin evidence they are not believers.
As shown, Robertson says along with many others on 1 John 3:9, that to say here that the believer cannot sin is wrong, "as if it were kai ou dunatai hamartein or hamartēsai (second aorist or first aorist active infinitive). The present active infinitive hamartanein can only mean “and he cannot go on sinning,” as is true of hamartanei in 1Jo_3:8 and hamartanōn in 1Jo_3:6. For the aorist subjunctive to commit a sin see hamartēte and hamartēi in 1Jo_2:1. A great deal of false theology has grown out of a misunderstanding of the tense of hamartanein here. Paul has precisely John’s idea in Rom_6:1 epimenōmen tēi hamartiāi (shall we continue in sin, present active linear subjunctive) in contrast with hamartēsōmen in Rom_6:15 (shall we commit a sin, first aorist active subjunctive)."
You also wrest Scripture when you
assert,
"Men who sin no more, are not sinless. The are forgiven their sins." That is absurd, for to sin no more mean there are no sins to be forgiven, while to need to be forgiven means that one sins.
As you have amply exampled.
I already amply have by the grace of God, exposing your damnable wresting of Scripture.
