Did Men Really Walk On The Moon?

[Leaf473]

OH, but there is... 50 million reasons ever single day.

That's their budget... $50,000,000.00 per day.

Not to mention the psychological boost it gave those in North America. It made them unstoppable.

Do you believe the Soviets / Russians knew the moon landing was faked but kept quiet about it?

 

[JacksBratt]

Do you believe the Soviets / Russians knew the moon landing was faked but kept quiet about it?

Probably.. They sent an unmanned craft to the moon and it crashed... supposedly...
They gave up on the farce and put their money into other things. Why would they stop otherwise.

 

[Leaf473]

Probably.. They sent an unmanned craft to the moon and it crashed... supposedly...
They gave up on the farce and put their money into other things. Why would they stop otherwise.

They may have put their money into other things because there really isn't much reason to go to the Moon, other than to say that you did. Since the US had already won that race, there wasn't much point to spending the money.

Why do you believe they would keep quiet about it?

 

[ximmix]

Not to mention the psychological boost it gave those in North America. It made them unstoppable.

Why would the Soviet Union play along and boost North America?

 

[JacksBratt]

They may have put their money into other things because there really isn't much reason to go to the Moon, other than to say that you did. Since the US had already won that race, there wasn't much point to spending the money.

Why do you believe they would keep quiet about it?

"Since the US already won that race"? If you take a look.... Russia was first in a most things space related, up to that point.

They were way ahead of the game. This is why the US was so panicked about getting to the moon in a decade.

Which is why they faked it.

 

[JacksBratt]

Why would the Soviet Union play along and boost North America?

When you get beyond the governments and the wars... there are things that all these countries benefit from. Things that know no borders... Like the Antarctic treaty and the international space treaty.


All powerful governments need the same deceptive lies to remain lies....
All powerful governments with space technology.... have space scientists.. who communicate with each other.

In fact all high tech does. That's why there are cell phones in every country.
Two types of computers world wide.
Why all fighter planes look almost identical.
Why the Space shuttle and the Concorde looked just like the AVRO Arrow.
Why all electricity is A/C.
Why vehicles are either Diesle or gas internal combustion engines.
Why there are nuclear bombs in all powerful countries.
Why the internet is everywhere. Why GPS is everywhere......

The biggest discrepancies in the world, as far as technology... is.... that some cars drive on the left and some drive on the right... or... that the rails of trains may be different widths.

Because... there are no secrets in the science world...among the scientists..... and secrets that scientists keep... are kept by all.

 

[Leaf473]

"Since the US already won that race"? If you take a look.... Russia was first in a most things space related, up to that point.

They were way ahead of the game. This is why the US was so panicked about getting to the moon in a decade.

Which is why they faked it.

When you get beyond the governments and the wars... there are things that all these countries benefit from. Things that know no borders... Like the Antarctic treaty and the international space treaty.


All powerful governments need the same deceptive lies to remain lies....
All powerful governments with space technology.... have space scientists.. who communicate with each other.

In fact all high tech does. That's why there are cell phones in every country.
Two types of computers world wide.
Why all fighter planes look almost identical.
Why the Space shuttle and the Concorde looked just like the AVRO Arrow.
Why all electricity is A/C.
Why vehicles are either Diesle or gas internal combustion engines.
Why there are nuclear bombs in all powerful countries.
Why the internet is everywhere. Why GPS is everywhere......

The biggest discrepancies in the world, as far as technology... is.... that some cars drive on the left and some drive on the right... or... that the rails of trains may be different widths.

Because... there are no secrets in the science world...among the scientists..... and secrets that scientists keep... are kept by all.

The Soviets were ahead up to that point, unless those were faked, too.

A giant conspiracy involving all the powerful governments and top scientists. It's possible.

I think it's unlikely, given human nature. People like to be the ones "in the know", and they like to tell secrets to other people, just be sure that other person doesn't tell anyone else...

If I were going to believe in a conspiracy of that magnitude, I think I would probably go all in and say all of life is just a computer simulation.

Peace be with you, my brother!

 

[WolfGate]

When you get beyond the governments and the wars... there are things that all these countries benefit from. Things that know no borders... Like the Antarctic treaty and the international space treaty.


All powerful governments need the same deceptive lies to remain lies....
All powerful governments with space technology.... have space scientists.. who communicate with each other.

In fact all high tech does. That's why there are cell phones in every country.
Two types of computers world wide.
Why all fighter planes look almost identical.
Why the Space shuttle and the Concorde looked just like the AVRO Arrow.
Why all electricity is A/C.
Why vehicles are either Diesle or gas internal combustion engines.
Why there are nuclear bombs in all powerful countries.
Why the internet is everywhere. Why GPS is everywhere......

The biggest discrepancies in the world, as far as technology... is.... that some cars drive on the left and some drive on the right... or... that the rails of trains may be different widths.

Because... there are no secrets in the science world...among the scientists..... and secrets that scientists keep... are kept by all.

You got me. I've been exposed. Crud.

 

[JacksBratt]

The Soviets were ahead up to that point, unless those were faked, too.

A giant conspiracy involving all the powerful governments and top scientists. It's possible.

I think it's unlikely, given human nature. People like to be the ones "in the know", and they like to tell secrets to other people, just be sure that other person doesn't tell anyone else...

If I were going to believe in a conspiracy of that magnitude, I think I would probably go all in and say all of life is just a computer simulation.

Peace be with you, my brother!

Well, some compare life as a "matrix". After all, on a nuclear level, the universe is mostly space. Not outer space but space where there is nothing.. Like the space between the nucleus and electrons of an atom.. etc.

We are all nothing but positive, negative and neutral particles in various configurations.

Secrets are not hard to keep if those who are "in on it" all have the same agenda.

Like I said.... at the very top.... they are all in on it and have the same agenda and the same amount to lose.

The lie is that it would be so hard to keep it quiet. They all have the same motivation. Nobody dares to open up as the massive power behind it would paint them as a lunatic and destroy them.

 

[HantsUK]

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In fact all high tech does. That's why there are cell phones in every country.
Two types of computers world wide.
Why all fighter planes look almost identical.
Why the Space shuttle and the Concorde looked just like the AVRO Arrow.
Why all electricity is A/C.
Why vehicles are either Diesle or gas internal combustion engines.
Why there are nuclear bombs in all powerful countries.
Why the internet is everywhere. Why GPS is everywhere......

The biggest discrepancies in the world, as far as technology... is.... that some cars drive on the left and some drive on the right... or... that the rails of trains may be different widths.

Because... there are no secrets in the science world...among the scientists..... and secrets that scientists keep... are kept by all.

You have a good point here. This does show that there is a world wide conspiracy, and that scientists and engineers are all in on it. It's called physics. The laws of physics are the same in China, as Europe, as the UK, as America. They are the same in the northern hemisphere as on the equator as in the southern hemisphere. It's all a big conspiracy.

Just a couple of the above examples:
Fighter planes are all similar because aerodynamics is the same worldwide.
Mains electricity uses AC because electrical circuit theory is the same everywhere.

The other conspiracy is due to simple economics and limited resources. Taking the example of computers. First, the claim that there are just two types of computers is false. Yes, there are now two dominant computer operating systems on personal computers: Mac OS X and Windows. Apple has changed the hardware architecture several times, from 68000, PowerPC, Intel 8086 descendants, and now ARM. Microsoft Windows has been restricted to Intel based processors, with aborted attempts to support other architectures.

But embedded systems, servers, and very large computers predominantly use Linux.

The world didn't start with two dominant operating systems for personal use, it ended up with two. Being able to have just one personal computer is much cheaper than have a desk full. Software developers now only need to support one, or perhaps two, operating systems., and have a much larger available market, then if there were many different systems in common use.

In the 1990s it was common for electronics engineers to have a Unix machine, a windows PC and an Apple Mac, and ATE systems were often controlled by an HP computer running HP Basic.

With nuclear bombs only being developed by powerful nations - that's because most countries do not have the money, people, or resources needed to develop them. And the powerful countries restrict their sale to other countries, so if a country wants its own nuclear capability, it has to do everything itself.

GPS is everywhere. Obviously. G stands for 'Global'. That's what it means. And how it works.

 

[Leaf473]

Well, some compare life as a "matrix". After all, on a nuclear level, the universe is mostly space. Not outer space but space where there is nothing.. Like the space between the nucleus and electrons of an atom.. etc.

We are all nothing but positive, negative and neutral particles in various configurations.

Secrets are not hard to keep if those who are "in on it" all have the same agenda.

Like I said.... at the very top.... they are all in on it and have the same agenda and the same amount to lose.

The lie is that it would be so hard to keep it quiet. They all have the same motivation. Nobody dares to open up as the massive power behind it would paint them as a lunatic and destroy them.

I guess we have a different view of human nature when it comes to keeping secrets.

Also, I think sooner or later someone who knows would become a Christian and would then have to stop lying. And I think there probably were already Christians at the top level. Jimmy Carter or George W. Bush, for example. While I may not agree with everything they say or their politics, they strike me as honest Christian men.

 

[Torah Keeper]

NASASCAM

 

[JacksBratt]

You have a good point here. This does show that there is a world wide conspiracy, and that scientists and engineers are all in on it. It's called physics. The laws of physics are the same in China, as Europe, as the UK, as America. They are the same in the northern hemisphere as on the equator as in the southern hemisphere. It's all a big conspiracy.

Just a couple of the above examples:
Fighter planes are all similar because aerodynamics is the same worldwide.

Mains electricity uses AC because electrical circuit theory is the same everywhere.

Originally D/C was the type of electricity that was pushed by Edison. Tesla was the one who developed A/C. All electricity is the same everywhere because of Tesla.

However, you prove my point. All this technology is the same because scientists communicate.
Otherwise insulin and other inventions would only be in their developers home country.

The other conspiracy is due to simple economics and limited resources. Taking the example of computers. First, the claim that there are just two types of computers is false. Yes, there are now two dominant computer operating systems on personal computers: Mac OS X and Windows. Apple has changed the hardware architecture several times, from 68000, PowerPC, Intel 8086 descendants, and now ARM. Microsoft Windows has been restricted to Intel based processors, with aborted attempts to support other architectures.

But embedded systems, servers, and very large computers predominantly use Linux.

True.. but.. you either run an Apple.. or a PC. PC's are predominantly Windows. The others are well behind.

You do bring up a good point though.. Intel.. main processors.. world wide.

My point.. you don't have 56 types of chip sets, processors, operating systems running on a multitude of frequencies of A/C power.

GPS is everywhere. Obviously. G stands for 'Global'. That's what it means. And how it works.

GPS was developed by the US government and had errors in it to keep other countries from using it to it's pin point accuracy. It's global but it was not for everyone. It's global because..that's what it was designed for.... so the US could use it anywhere they went..
But... now... everyone has it. They all use the same satellites.

Scientists talk to Scientists.

 

[JacksBratt]

I guess we have a different view of human nature when it comes to keeping secrets.

Also, I think sooner or later someone who knows would become a Christian and would then have to stop lying. And I think there probably were already Christians at the top level. Jimmy Carter or George W. Bush, for example. While I may not agree with everything they say or their politics, they strike me as honest Christian men.

Some things are sworn secrets by the office you hold. The protection of your family would be a very key hold on people.

What would you keep from the world if someone threatened to kill all your living family?

 

[Leaf473]

This all posits some kind of super government that actually runs everything.

And could kill former president's families.

 

[Leaf473]

But I agree that it does say in the Psalms:

Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?

The kings of the earth take a stand and the rulers conspire against the Lord, and against his Anointed.

 

[JacksBratt]

This all posits some kind of super government that actually runs everything.

And could kill former president's families.

It's not a "super" government. It's beyond that. It's a group of mega rich and powerful people with a main agenda. An evil agenda. A one world government agenda. They know no borders and have so much money that they control the elite and put in power those that they want in power.

These are the puppet masters.

 

[Paul4JC]

so here I am standing in cinder lake a location in the state of Arizona that NASA decided to blow up to make it look like they're on the moon, and I have to say, the mountains behind me look awfully familiar.

 

[d taylor]

Check out the Rocketlab website - I used to work on their rocket motor parts.

They have brilliant video of exactly that...

Why could you not post this video or at least a link to its location, that is if it exist.

 

[d taylor]

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All that is need to be seen is video something like these images until the whole earth out in space is seen. I mean they say they can control satellites, etc.. millions to billions of miles away. Then recording video of the earth as a rocket leaves the earth, should been easy as pie.