Did Men Really Walk On The Moon?

[Torah Keeper]

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[Vesper_Jaye✝️]

I… think so…

 

[WolfGate]

Yes. Absolutely. My direct source is my sister, who is literally a rocket scientist and engineer. My supporting evidence is my own career, where my work in millimeter wave radio systems has had me consulting in several high tech industries, including space with both large contractors and NASA itself.

For those missions to be false, the level and depth of conspiracy would be astronomical. (But, given some of the other things people believe despite the overwhelming evidence, I'm not surprised that some would think the conspiracy is more likely).

 

[SkyWriting]

We have over 800 pounds of moon rocks. Some can be borrowed with permission from Nasa for examination. What we discovered is that the moon is pretty boring with minerals that are not very exotic. Which is why we haven't gone back.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Amateur radio operators independently built antennas directed to the moon and heard the communications with the lunar rover.

 

[Sketcher]

The Soviets (who had no reason to) confirmed it.

 

[3 Resurrections]

The poll is a little confusing. Are those "space missions" including human exploration or simply mechanical equipment?

 

[Torah Keeper]

The poll is a little confusing. Are those "space missions" including human exploration or simply mechanical equipment?

The Apollo missions were the only time people have ever gone beyond low earth orbit. The other space missions would be Mars rovers, Voyager, etc.

I am not a flat-earther but I don't believe man has walked on the moon. Sure I grew up believing it. But I saw a documentary which got me curious. Bill Kaysing was a rocket engineer for Rocketdyne. He engineered the Saturn rockets for the moon missions. He explained the technical reasons why sending men to the moon in 1969 was impossible. Keep in mind this is the very guy who designed the Saturn rockets, the same "lost technology" as NASA claims. They don't have the tech because they never had it. Kaysing died and NASA claims no man alive today can remake the Saturn rockets. Kaysing said they never went to the moon. They crashed into the ocean. Any supposed signals from the Apollo crew from the moon, were really just beamed up to the moon from Earth, and bounced back to Earth. Hence the many amateur claims of "I got signals of Apollo coming from the moon!"

But Kaysing's book is the tip of the iceberg. Many other whistleblowers came forward. Bart Sibrel, a filmaker, has released some interesting videos, "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon", "Astronauts Gone Wild", and a book, "Moon Man". David Percy, a photographer, along with others, also made a documentary showing why the footage was fake. "Nasa Mooned America" is another book by Ralph Rene, an inventor of some of the technology used by NASA.

I've seen enough evidence by now to say with confidence no man can go above low earth orbit and survive. Russia learned this when all the animals they sent into space, died. I've seen Apollo photos with wires, overhead lights, framing of a building, shots cropped into photos, an astronaut with his glove off and bare hand exposed, foreground/background cut lines, repeated use of backdrops at supposedly different locations, reflections of stagehands in astronaut helmets, shadows at almost 90' angles a few feet apart (proof of stage lighting), and more. Thousands of photos were taken and it takes a long time to search them all. Sometimes, someone finds something NASA forgot to edit out.

NASA claims to have "accidently" taped over the original footage from the 1st lunar landing. Whoops. What a shame. All we have now are digitally altered "remasters". Hmm. Why is that? I encourage anyone to do their own research.

In my opinion, there are 3 possibilities:

1. Man did not go to the moon.
2. Man went to the moon.
3. Nothing, man or machine, has been to the moon.

Take your pick. But I firmly believe #2 is not true.

 

[3 Resurrections]

I am not a flat-earther but I don't believe man has walked on the moon

Agreed, the Van Allen Belts are not only our God-given protection, they are a restriction for the human body to go beyond them in space exploration. Instruments, yes; the human body, no. I don't need to go any farther than Psalms 115:16. "The heaven, even the heavens are the Lord's; but the earth hath He given to the children of men."

 

[d taylor]

The moon and all the other outer space deceptions are just one big ole satanic lie against God's true creation heaven and earth.

The moon like the sun is a created light, that moves over the earth to given light on the earth. Theses lights are not 200,000 to millions of miles out in, an outer space.

Science and space programs have been able to successfully deceive people. By developing rockets that can be shot up into the raqia/heaven/sky several miles high 20-30 miles.

There is not one single video/recording of a rocket going up and into outer space showing the earth (going farther and farther away) as the rocket leaves earths environment.

It is always a rocket going up and showing part of the earth and a fake fish-eye curve. Then magically the next shot will be a a fake earth floating in the magical outer space.

 

[prodromos]

The moon and all the other outer space deceptions are just one big ole satanic lie against God's true creation heaven and earth.

The moon like the sun is a created light, that moves over the earth to given light on the earth. Theses lights are not 200,000 to millions of miles out in, an outer space.

Science and space programs have been able to successfully deceive people. By developing rockets that can be shot up into the raqia/heaven/sky several miles high 20-30 miles.

There is not one single video/recording of a rocket going up and into outer space showing the earth (going farther and farther away) as the rocket leaves earths environment.

It is always a rocket going up and showing part of the earth and a fake fish-eye curve. The magically the next shot will be a a fake earth floating in the magical outer space.

The OP specifically said "no talk of flat earth".

 

[Acts2:38Apologetics]

No I don't believe we ever did. We can't get through the van allen belts. even now they're still trying to figure it out.

Also I don't know if anyone else has reseached Operation Paperclip.
Why would America make a NAZI the head of the space program, knowing the crimes he committed?

 

[trophy33]

Its not a conspiracy, because there is no huge world-wide reason for such huge world-wide conspiracy.

Do not forget, NASA is not the only space agency. Other countries are capable to see your stuff on the moon.

I am also still to see any bribe NASA gave to the Soviet Union to cover and confirm such event.

 

[Estrid]

The Apollo missions were the only time people have ever gone beyond low earth orbit. The other space missions would be Mars rovers, Voyager, etc.

I am not a flat-earther but I don't believe man has walked on the moon. Sure I grew up believing it. But I saw a documentary which got me curious. Bill Kaysing was a rocket engineer for Rocketdyne. He engineered the Saturn rockets for the moon missions. He explained the technical reasons why sending men to the moon in 1969 was impossible. Keep in mind this is the very guy who designed the Saturn rockets, the same "lost technology" as NASA claims. They don't have the tech because they never had it. Kaysing died and NASA claims no man alive today can remake the Saturn rockets. Kaysing said they never went to the moon. They crashed into the ocean. Any supposed signals from the Apollo crew from the moon, were really just beamed up to the moon from Earth, and bounced back to Earth. Hence the many amateur claims of "I got signals of Apollo coming from the moon!"

But Kaysing's book is the tip of the iceberg. Many other whistleblowers came forward. Bart Sibrel, a filmaker, has released some interesting videos, "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon", "Astronauts Gone Wild", and a book, "Moon Man". David Percy, a photographer, along with others, also made a documentary showing why the footage was fake. "Nasa Mooned America" is another book by Ralph Rene, an inventor of some of the technology used by NASA.

I've seen enough evidence by now to say with confidence no man can go above low earth orbit and survive. Russia learned this when all the animals they sent into space, died. I've seen Apollo photos with wires, overhead lights, framing of a building, shots cropped into photos, an astronaut with his glove off and bare hand exposed, foreground/background cut lines, repeated use of backdrops at supposedly different locations, reflections of stagehands in astronaut helmets, shadows at almost 90' angles a few feet apart (proof of stage lighting), and more. Thousands of photos were taken and it takes a long time to search them all. Sometimes, someone finds something NASA forgot to edit out.

NASA claims to have "accidently" taped over the original footage from the 1st lunar landing. Whoops. What a shame. All we have now are digitally altered "remasters". Hmm. Why is that? I encourage anyone to do their own research.

In my opinion, there are 3 possibilities:

1. Man did not go to the moon.
2. Man went to the moon.
3. Nothing, man or machine, has been to the moon.

Take your pick. But I firmly believe #2 is not true.

Do you also think evolution is fake?

 

[Torah Keeper]

Please stay on topic. No talk of flat earth, aliens, Donald Trump, covid, or other unrelated topics. Please, DO NOT DOUBLE POST.

Do you also think evolution is fake?

 

[Yttrium]

Bill Kaysing was a rocket engineer for Rocketdyne. He engineered the Saturn rockets for the moon missions.

No, he wasn't, and he didn't. He was a technical writer and a service engineer. Service engineers have nothing directly to do with design and manufacture of rockets. They maintain equipment.

Russia learned this when all the animals they sent into space, died.

This is completely false. How did you even come up with this idea?

 

[prodromos]

No, he wasn't, and he didn't. He was a technical writer and a service engineer. Service engineers have nothing directly to do with design and manufacture of rockets. They maintain equipment.

Since he quit his job at Rocketdyne in 1963, he wouldn't have had access to anything regarding the launch in 1969.
So, wasn't a rocket engineer, did not design the rockets, highest qualification was a BA in English Literature. Not exactly what I would consider a reliable source on the viability of the Saturn V rocket engines.

 

[prodromos]

Russia learned this when all the animals they sent into space, died.

None of the animals Russia sent into space ever left low earth orbit. They killed the animals so they would not suffer during re-entry, since none of their craft were designed to safely re-enter the earth's atmosphere.

 

[Torah Keeper]

No, he wasn't, and he didn't. He was a technical writer and a service engineer. Service engineers have nothing directly to do with design and manufacture of rockets. They maintain equipment.



This is completely false. How did you even come up with this idea?

• Did you read Bill Kaysing's book? What kind of technical stuff was he writing?
• This is completely true. All animals that have gone beyond low earth orbit have died. Not just Russia. All nations know this.

 

[Torah Keeper]

Since he quit his job at Rocketdyne in 1963, he wouldn't have had access to anything regarding the launch in 1969.
So, wasn't a rocket engineer, did not design the rockets, highest qualification was a BA in English Literature. Not exactly what I would consider a reliable source on the viability of the Saturn V rocket engines.

He was part of a team of engineers. He didn't work alone. Yes he was an engineer that worked on the Saturn rockets during the design phase. Yes he was a rocket engineer. Yes he helped design the Saturn rockets. Not being present at the launch doesn't discredit the work he previously did. He quit NASA because he realized going to the moon was impossible, and he didn't want to be part of the scandal to fake it if they got caught. When he blew the whistle he was slandered and labeled as a conspiracy nut and a liar.