Did humans descend from Apes?

[Speedwell]

first: what do you think about my robot argument? do you think that a robot that is made from organic components is evidence for design?

Why do you keep asking that same stupid question over and over? There is no evidence of design. Ever. There is only evidence of human manufacture, from which design can be concluded. If there is no evidence of human manufacture then you won't know whether there is design or not. There might be but you can't tell.

 

[Speedwell]

but why they are apes? because they share similar traits with apes. so by this logic i can claim that a car is a truck since both are similar.

"Ape" is the popular name of a whole family of species properly called the Hominidae. It is also the popular name of some of the species which are members of that family. It's confusing if you don't know that. When we say that humans are apes we do not mean that humans are the same as any other presently existing ape species, but that we belong to the family Hominidae along with the other apes.

By your logic you cannot call a car a truck because they share similar traits. You would have to call a car and a truck "motor vehicles" because of that sharing.

 

[VirOptimus]

but why they are apes? because they share similar traits with apes. so by this logic i can claim that a car is a truck since both are similar.

Im not responsible for your education. There are numerous resources online where the definition of ape is explained.

 

[tas8831]

why not? do you agree for instance that the similarity among cars point to a common designer (human)?

You do realize that in this context, "human" refers to the human species, right? Because all cars are not designed by 1 human.

So by your own logic, you are arguing for pantheism.

I would like to see a car designed by Hades, personally. Might look like this:

 

[tas8831]

but why they are apes? because they share similar traits with apes. so by this logic i can claim that a car is a truck since both are similar.

Wow dude. You think cars and trucks reproduce? And are alive? Weird-city.

 

[juvenissun]

we can clasify human as human rather then ape. depend on the belief perspective.

Based on the quality of criteria.
Anyone is able to classify human into the category of dog, and proudly say: we are dogs.

 

[Aman777]

Simply stating something doesn't make it true. We now have the ability to sequence DNA, and the DNA sequences clearly support my version of events not yours. It's called: Objective, verifiable, evidence.

Then WHY can no one tell us the process, which is totally unique in Nature, by which unintelligent "evolution" changed prehistoric beings into reasoning Humans? Where do we find this changeable intelligence in genetics? Your problem seems to be a devotion to the biggest satanic lie ever told and believing that you know more than God.

 

[Aman777]

ow can it not be 'animal behaviour' since we are animals?

False, since Humans were made long BEFORE any other living creature. Where have you been?

 

[juvenissun]

That can be used for a lot of unique/semi unique behaviours. Is the hummingbird not a bird because it flies backwards?

Of course not. You are not honest.
To wear clothes, we must first find the material, and then make it into something wearable.
You are not honest in the argument.

 

[Aman777]

Well, no.
Too much in conflict with God's Word.

False accusation unless you can provide chapter and verse for your misconception.

 

[Aman777]

In reality humans are apes. Thats an indisputable fact.

False, since Adam, the first Human, was made the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4-7 and "every other living creature was made the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Please explain your confusion.

 

[Aman777]

Denying that you follow the religion of christianity based on the bible, won't change reality.

Reality is that God lives in me so i have no need of religion, which is man's attempt to know God. I already know Him. I'm alive forevermore, thanks to Jesus. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

By the same argument, the Quran, Gita and a sentence I wrote on a piece of paper can also be used, but they tell different stories. Stories. Beliefs.

False, since none of them agree in every way with every discovery of mankind IF you have the proper interpretation, which you obviously do not. God's Truth is the Truth in every way. God Bless you

 

[VirOptimus]

False, since Adam, the first Human, was made the 3rd Day, Gen 2:4-7 and "every other living creature was made the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Please explain your confusion.

Firstly, I’m an atheist and dont care about scripture. Keep your myths out of science.

Secondly, I’m not the one who are confused.

 

[AnotherAtheist]

False, since Humans were made long BEFORE any other living creature. Where have you been?

Humans have been around for about 315,000 years. There have been living creatures on earth for over 600 million years if you mean multicellular animals. Or over 3.5 billion years if you mean single cell organisms.

Where have I been? Places like schools, libraries, universities, and other sources of reliable information. So, I actually know something and can back up my claims with references such as: Klein, Richard (1995). "Anatomy, behavior, and modern human origins". Journal of World Prehistory. 9 (2): 167–198. and https://www.livescience.com/57942-what-was-first-life-on-earth.html

What do you have to back up your claims?

Then WHY can no one tell us the process, which is totally unique in Nature, by which unintelligent "evolution" changed prehistoric beings into reasoning Humans? Where do we find this changeable intelligence in genetics? Your problem seems to be a devotion to the biggest satanic lie ever told and believing that you know more than God.

How is intelligence 'totally unique in nature'? Different animals have different levels of ability to reason, etc. Yes, we are the best at it, but there are plenty of other animals that can problem solve, reason about what others know (e.g. chimps), show cultural evolution, etc.

And what do you mean that 'no-one can tell us the process'. You just haven't been looking in the right place for the current research on the genetic basis of intelligence. Try this for a start: New genetic roots for intelligence discovered

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

False accusation unless you can provide chapter and verse for your misconception.

Actually no.
Many visitors see the conflict, without even knowing the Scripture.
Just like the crowds Jesus spoke to, knew Jesus spoke the truth AND lived as HE SPOKE.
The same crowds applauded Jesus because He spoke with truth and authority,
and they ignored the scribes and pharisees, seeing them as hypocrites (as Jesus confirmed).
The crowds did not have a need to know any chapter nor verse to see what they saw clearly, and
Jesus confirmed.

 

[Jjmcubbin]

Of course not. You are not honest.
To wear clothes, we must first find the material, and then make it into something wearable.
You are not honest in the argument.

Okay so a weaver bird, your clothes argument has already been refuted by someone who gave examples of other animals. You completely ignore the biggest factor, our genetic and anatomical similarities with other apes while relying on something like clothes. You also misinterpreted my argument. You say (I think) that humans are not apes because they wear clothes, as if they must be a copy of other apes. I countered it by saying that hummingbirds are not birds because they fly backwards. The number of steps is just indicative of our intelligence, which here is irrelevant

 

[DogmaHunter]

Reality is that God lives in me so i have no need of religion, which is man's attempt to know God. I already know Him. I'm alive forevermore, thanks to Jesus. Amen?

yep, that is your religious belief.

 

[Aman777]

Firstly, I’m an atheist and dont care about scripture. Keep your myths out of science.

Secondly, I’m not the one who are confused.

Sure you are, since the only way you can refute me is to believe that you know more than God. Such views are delusional and cannot explain How or When we changed from animal to Human (Adam's descendants) intelligence. The myth is that we magically obtained the highest intelligence in creation from mindless nature. IF you believe that satanic lie, you will believe anything. Seek help.

 

[PsychoSarah]

but why they are apes? because they share similar traits with apes. so by this logic i can claim that a car is a truck since both are similar.

Think of it this way; cars and semi-trucks (the type of truck I assume you were talking about) are both land vehicles that use rubber tires and engines that work by the same principles. Humans and chimps are both have a wide range of shoulder movement, are mammals, lack tails, and have front facing eyes.

Not sure why people get so freaked out over us sharing a Superfamily with chimps and orangutans when your poodle shares a family (the taxonomic category directly below Superfamily and thus more detailed and exclusive) with the Asian raccoon dog

Are we supposed to be insulted about being vertebrates because it puts us in a category snakes are also in on account of spine structure?