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Did humans descend from Apes?

Aman777

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In any case it has nothing to do with the evolution of our physical bodies and why it doesn't matter whether we were made from dust or some primate.

False, since Humans (descendants of Adam) have his superior intelligence. Mindless Nature has no intelligence to impart to Apes. It's neutral and dumb as a post.
 
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Why do you wear clothes?
The reason is not biological. Wake up.
Okay, but how does it matter? I've already talked about behavioural differences and even classification on the basis of eating habits in a number of different organisms.
So, how do clothes matter?
False, since Human genetics was changed when Noah's grandsons married and produced children with prehistoric women since there were NO other Humans for them to marry. Today's Humans inherited the genetics and biochemistry of prehistoric people BUT we did NOT evolve from Apes, as you believe. Gen 6:4
S/he meant using biology. Not the bible.
 
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False, since Human genetics was changed when Noah's grandsons married and produced children with prehistoric women since there were NO other Humans for them to marry. Today's Humans inherited the genetics and biochemistry of prehistoric people BUT we did NOT evolve from Apes, as you believe. Gen 6:4

Simply stating something doesn't make it true. We now have the ability to sequence DNA, and the DNA sequences clearly support my version of events not yours. It's called: Objective, verifiable, evidence.

If your beliefs conflict with objective, verifiable evidence, then you need to revise your beliefs. If you refuse to change your clearly wrong beliefs, then that's your problem.
 
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Okay, but how does it matter? I've already talked about behavioural differences and even classification on the basis of eating habits in a number of different organisms.
So, how do clothes matter?

Can you see wearing clothes is much much more than an animal behavior? Think about it carefully.
 
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Can you see wearing clothes is much much more than an animal behavior? Think about it carefully.

How can it not be 'animal behaviour' since we are animals?

The degree to which we construct clothes is unique to our species, but other similar ways of manipulating the environment, such as tool use and constructing domiciles, aren't. Other animals, such as larval caddisflies, cloak themselves in things they make. See also polychaete worms.

Other apes, given the opportunity, will wrap themselves with blankets. I've seen orang-utans do this. Also look here for an orang-utan 'dressing up'. Mama Orangutan And Baby Find Park Ranger's Clothes, Play Dress-Up

And even if the way we do it is unique, how does it stop us being apes. We're just apes that wear clothes. Polychaete worms don't stop being worms because they construct something to live in. Laval caddisflies don't stop being insects for similar reasons.
 
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The flawed ToE teaches that humans descended from the common ancestor of Apes. This theory is provably false since it cannot explain the process by which we obtained our superior intelligence to ANY other living creature on planet Earth, from mindless Nature. The ToE falsely assumes that we magically changed from prehistoric animal like creature, into reasoning humans, and we just now are becoming smart enough to post online.

Truth is that we changed from prehistoric to human in ONE generation when Noah's grandsons married and passed Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's Gen 3:22 to the sons of God (prehistoric people) Gen 6:4 who were already here when the Ark arrived, 11k years ago. Today's humans (descendants of Adam) are the result since we have the DNA of prehistoric beings AND the superior intelligence which ONLY Adam and God have. We did NOT descend from Apes. That's God's Truth Scripturally. Amen?
Well, no.
Too much in conflict with God's Word.
 
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It DOES matter. God use clay to make apes. God use fresh clay to make human. This process is not evolutional, even all life forms were made of clay.

Your beliefs doesnt matter.

In reality humans are apes. Thats an indisputable fact.
 
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Your beliefs doesnt matter.

I would personally extend that sentence to be: 'Your beliefs don't matter, unless you can back them up with verifiable, objective evidence.'

In reality humans are apes. Thats an indisputable fact.

Agreed.
 
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I would personally extend that sentence to be: 'Your beliefs don't matter, unless you can back them up with verifiable, objective evidence.'



Agreed.

I agree; although I wouldnt use the term ”objective” as that presupposes an objective agent, i.e. god which I deny.
 
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I have no religion since religion is man's attempt to find the God's Truth. God lives inside me and allows me to understand His Holy Word. Your changeable religion is a figment of your imagination. In the end, God is the winner because His Truth is the Truth in every way, Scripturally, Scientifically and Historically.

Denying that you follow the religion of christianity based on the bible, won't change reality.
 
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No he’s not kidding about apes being able to use language. in fact vervet monkeys (which are monkeys not apes ) can use nouns as sentences. Small children frequently use nouns like that. Theyll say “doggie!” Which any adult understands as “There is a dog here! “ The vervet have 3 words in their language that we understand snake,leopard and eagle. If you record and broadcast them saying snake, the whole troop will look around at the ground trying to find that snake. The ability to use languages was acquired gradually by humans just like some anatomical traits were.
first: what do you think about my robot argument? do you think that a robot that is made from organic components is evidence for design?
 
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So, taxonomy should NOT be used to argue that human is an ape. Because human is much much more than an ape. It is a wrong classification.
we can clasify human as human rather then ape. depend on the belief perspective.
 
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we can clasify human as human rather then ape. depend on the belief perspective.

Humans ARE apes.

Your religion has nothing to do with it.

Also, using magic (religion) in an science debate is an autoloss.
 
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Since the Bible is the only place to find out our true origins and it agrees with Science and History, I use it to proclaim God's Glory. Amen?
No.

By the same argument, the Quran, Gita and a sentence I wrote on a piece of paper can also be used, but they tell different stories. Stories. Beliefs.
Also, the Bible doesn't always agree with science and history.
Can you see wearing clothes is much much more than an animal behavior? Think about it carefully.
That can be used for a lot of unique/semi unique behaviours. Is the hummingbird not a bird because it flies backwards?
Are Impennae and Paleognathae (in layman's language, penguins and ostriches respectively) not birds because they do not fly?
I hope you see the problem. Science has a definition for animals, and humans fit it. Simple. I suppose it may not be simple for a fifth grader as animal is used while excluding humans (layman) but I presume you are older than a school student, so I don't really understand why you still believe something like that.
As for clothes, it has already been addressed way better than I could have by someone.
You do not know logic.
Very mature and intelligent. Clearly a winner.
 
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